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Fly4SCUBA Jun 29, 2006 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by BigPoppaCO
Those shakedowns are not limited to MEX. They even occur in uber-tourist destinations like CUN. I was there for a bachelor party in April with a group of about 10 guys and at least 5 of us were "shaken down" over the course of the weekend. One time we were standing outside of a club and one of the security guards came over to me and grabbed me on the arm and accused me of urinating on the street. I was standing with at least 6 other people and he just randomly walked up to me, grabbed my arm and started jabbering away on the radio. He then said he saw me urinating (I clearly wasn't) and he was calling the federale to come "arrest me". He said that they would be there in 10 minutes and he could make them go away if I gave him 200 pesos. I laughed in his face. After 5 minutes or so he clearly saw that we weren't going to pay and he was surrounded by 7 dudes who were all about 7 inches taller than him. He eventually let go and moved on, lucky to still have a head attached to his body.

The locals there think they can take advantage of anyone, and the sad truth is they probably get away with it most of the time. It happened about 4 more times over the course of the weekend (another time a security guard grabbed my friend when he walked out of the bathroom and accused him of doing blow. He asked for $1000 pesos! or he was calling the police. My friend laughed in his face. The funny thing is they are all like 5 4' 130lbs). Im my opinion the locals there are a bunch of corrupt lowlife losers)


Agreed, similar shakedowns to me and many of my friends in CUN.

Mahalo Jun 29, 2006 8:26 pm

Sadly the ones that perpetuate these shakedowns severly hurt the Mexican economy as the price is lower tourism from those who believe Mexico is a bit dangerous.

dlen111 Jun 30, 2006 2:35 pm

MEX trip cancelled
 
i feel terrible that i have wasted everyone's time, but i will not be going to MEX. however, i still eagerly anticipate going, so i feel this thread was not a waste.

the concierge at the W informed me yesterday (approx 30 hours before my dept. flight) that due to national elections (which i knew about), that alcohol sales in the entire country were banned from friday night to sunday night. basically three of our four nights. i cannot imagine this is true for the entire country, but he insisted. the hotel manager confimred and immediately and graciously refunded my 4 night pre-paid non refundable room. Continental however was not so gracious.

upon learning the news i immediately phoned CO to inquire about any possibilites of changing (i knew most flight were 100% booked). although we had a combo of Z, A, and Y (EXJ) fares, and were rebooked to BZE on all D, A and Y (EXJ) fares, they charged me $100 for each ticket change. rules are rules i guess. i figured CO may have been a bit more lenient being that Mexico city was basically shut down for the weekend. oh well.

I am however completely excited about my trip to san pedro in Belize.

jfe Jun 30, 2006 3:10 pm


Originally Posted by dlen111
i cannot imagine this is true for the entire country

Yes it is

During election they enact "ley seca" which restricts the commercial sale of alcohol

This is for everything, supermarkets, stores, restaurants, bars

They don't want people getting drunk during the elections.

Russell745 Jun 30, 2006 5:03 pm

holy crap....I'm here right now (leaving tomorrow morning though) and no cocktails tonight?!?

"Duty Free purchases of ample amounts of alcohol.....Don't Leave Home Without It" :p :D ^

KebaNYC Jun 30, 2006 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by Russell745
holy crap....I'm here right now......

And your still alive??? :)

EmailKid Jul 1, 2006 7:43 pm


Originally Posted by KebaNYC
And your still alive??? :)

:D :D :D :D :D

Duhey2 Jul 1, 2006 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by dlen111
....that alcohol sales in the entire country were banned from friday night to sunday night.

See, if you had read my post, you would have known that like five days ago....

JDiver Jul 2, 2006 7:36 pm

The state of Quintana Roo has a high level of corruption, unfortunately, and the CUN police and other municipal employees go long stretches wihtout being paid due to "budget problems," so they have learned about corruption and are prone to "help themselves." It is hardly a singular case.

Side note to those who might raise the issue: I was raised in Mexico and still have plenty of family I visit - so please, don't raise the specter of racism or cultural isolationism. :)


Originally Posted by Fly4SCUBA
Agreed, similar shakedowns to me and many of my friends in CUN.


psychtobe Jul 12, 2006 7:51 pm

too bad on the cancellation, but I hope you get a chance to visit MEX soon.

I was just there for a 5 day weekend in early June - absolutely loved it. My wife and I (in our 30s, I'm mixed Chinese American, she's Vietnamese American) probably stood out, but we didn't carry on loudly, carry around cameras, maps, etc. We don't wear expensive clothing (jeans, t-shirt, sombreros) or wear backpacks. We speak a little Spanish and can get around. We stayed right on the Zocalo, wandered the area as late as midnight, ate street food (but no tap water or uncooked veggies), took the subway, walked the parks, etc. Loved all the marketplaces! We had NO PROBLEMS. Not only were we not directly threatened, but everybody was extremely friendly to us. It's true that you will be harassed endlessly to buy things off the street, but that's part of the fun of being in a third world country.

IMO it is reasonable to take some precautions: no street taxis, no uncooked street food, don't walk alone, stay in the touristy areas (Zocalo, Zona Rosa, Coyoacan, etc), no fancy watches/jewelry/clothing. Then go for it! MEX has too much to offer in the way of culture, food, history to completely bypass. We can't wait to go back.

JDiver Jul 13, 2006 7:22 am

AVOID downtown Mexico City weekend of July 14-16.
 
This weekend (July 14 - 16,) there will be a huge demonstration by supporters of the PRD party, which is contestng the recent Presidential (and congressional) election. The main demonstration, predicted to have at least a half-million people, will be centered on the Zocalo (central square.) People who want to be part of the demonstration have begun pouring into the city as of Wednesday July 12 - this is going to be a very big one, folks. Expect traffic an dservice disruptions in the central city core, and probably on major arterials leading to it.

During last Sunday's election protest demonstration, some news crews were threatened, as were some Spanish visitors. This weekened, I suspect things will be very angry - the PRD is said at this point to have lost the election by 0.57%, and they are insistent there was massive fraud (though the EU observers and others did not see any serious fraud.)

Avoid any crowds this weekend in Mexico City. Sometimes demonstrators may be under the influence of alcohol, and the mob can get pretty worked up - this is the intent, to create a huge, newsworthy outpouring of feelings to motivate the electoral tribunal and courts to order a hand count. I can not emphasize strongly enough it is not worth the possible consequences to go to get a quick look, observe or participate in this mass event, especially so if you are American or appear it, or a national of countries who have already acknowledged the PAN candidate as winning - the UK, US, Spain in particular.

I am sincerely hoping Mr. López Obrador can keep control and hold his supporters to peaceful demonstration and that Mexico's budding democracy has matured - but Mexican politics have sometimes turned violent, with resulting deaths.

stut Jul 20, 2006 4:52 pm

Well, I was in Mexico City (as part of a BA Tier Point run) last weekend, and luckily, the demonstrations appeared to be entirely peaceful while I was there (admittedly, I do go to a fair few protests, and am reasonably experienced at telling when things are going to get nasty). Chatted to a few people (the feelings really are running quite high), took a wander round the Zocálo area, and ended up (when it got too crowded for me) at a café, nicely situated behind some crowd control barriers, to get some excellent food while watching all that was going on.

Some photos of the protests here if you're interested.

Personally, I did watch my belongings pretty closely, but did not feel at all threatened in the city. The biggest problem was running out of breath on all those steps on the metro!

glydadx2 Jul 25, 2006 3:53 pm

Folks,

I have spent a fair bit of time over the last 6 months in Mexico City and wrote a detailed analysis of the security situation in another post (see below).

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...0&page=2&pp=15

Key message:
From a safety perspective if your smart and vigilant you will have no issues. I shopped in the open markets many times in the Centro Historico, Zona Rosa, and Polanco areas of the city and had no issues. That being said I also tried to blend in, even though I'm visibly Canadian , by not wearing flashy watches, etc, not carrying a visible camera, and not flashing wads of money.

glydadx2 Jul 25, 2006 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by stut
Well, I was in Mexico City (as part of a BA Tier Point run) last weekend, and luckily, the demonstrations appeared to be entirely peaceful while I was there (admittedly, I do go to a fair few protests, and am reasonably experienced at telling when things are going to get nasty). Chatted to a few people (the feelings really are running quite high), took a wander round the Zocálo area, and ended up (when it got too crowded for me) at a café, nicely situated behind some crowd control barriers, to get some excellent food while watching all that was going on.

Some photos of the protests here if you're interested.

Personally, I did watch my belongings pretty closely, but did not feel at all threatened in the city. The biggest problem was running out of breath on all those steps on the metro!

Looks like those pictures of the protests at the Alameda are taken from the Sheraton Centro Historico??? :D

stut Jul 25, 2006 5:35 pm

Indeed they were, and a very nice hotel it was too :)

The Zocalo ones were on site (bar one, from a rather nice café behind some convenient barricades...)


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