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Global Adventurer Jul 7, 2025 9:42 am


Originally Posted by pbiflyer (Post 37191031)
We stayed on Avenida de la Reforma at the Marriott. But we wandered around Roma Norte quite a bit. The people were so nice and friendly.
Plan was an AirBnB or small hotel in Condesa area, so seems like waiting might be a good idea. Because the thought was to spend time just wandering around absorbing the day to day life.

Just stay in a hotel and you would have nothing to be concerned about.

They're always friendly because they hate confrontations.

Global Adventurer Jul 7, 2025 10:02 am

This is what happened in Condesa with that lady. She made a racist statement about the officer. She's being investigated because of public outcry.



Global Adventurer Jul 7, 2025 5:36 pm

I've been looking for a video in English (auto-dubbed AI) that explains exactly what's going on with the gentrification in Mexico. So, try to not to stay in Airbnbs when you visit, regardless if you have done it for years. That would be my first recommendation. Besides that the locals know which buildings are used for Airbnb, especially when you see people coming and going with luggage. Don't be a target.



marcopizzaiuolo Jul 8, 2025 3:43 am

This is a real shame, although when we were there mid and end of June just gone, we did not see nor experience anything against tourists. I would say that we were often asked where we came from and there was a positive reaction when we said “London” or generally that we were European (particularly by a politician in Coyoacán.

however, not sure I read your post above correctly, but I would be in full support of anyone stating that visitors should respect the country and the people of that country, as this should be the number one rule of tourism, and the reasons some nationality are seen as bad tourists.

Global Adventurer Jul 8, 2025 7:30 am


Originally Posted by marcopizzaiuolo (Post 37192534)
This is a real shame, although when we were there mid and end of June just gone, we did not see nor experience anything against tourists. I would say that we were often asked where we came from and there was a positive reaction when we said “London” or generally that we were European (particularly by a politician in Coyoacán.

however, not sure I read your post above correctly, but I would be in full support of anyone stating that visitors should respect the country and the people of that country, as this should be the number one rule of tourism, and the reasons some nationality are seen as bad tourists.

People from the USA are the ones that the locals don't want here. It's been that way for awhile now. It's just getting worse. But they can tell where people are from just with their accent, even if they speak Spanish. And like I mentioned before, they do things behind your back and it's not so obvious at first, especially to someone who hasn't lived in the city for years.

Global Adventurer Jul 9, 2025 8:17 pm

Proposed Legislation - For Discriminatory Foreigners
 
As part of the current climate regarding anti-gentrification, disrespectful foreigners can lose their visa, temporary or permanent residency if found to be discriminatory against any Mexican national. That's what has been put forth for vote in the CDMX general assembly this week. The lady (a foreign resident) in the clip above was video taped again recently a second time berating security guards.

"Morena (party) Senator Cynthia López Castro presented an initiative to withdraw the visa, temporary or permanent residence of any foreigner who commits an act of discrimination in Mexico." El Universal

This is getting a lot of traction. I thought it was newsworthy to put this here, since many people reading this forum obtain visitor visas and temporary residency.

pbiflyer Jul 10, 2025 7:59 am


Originally Posted by Global Adventurer (Post 37191049)
Just stay in a hotel and you would have nothing to be concerned about.

They're always friendly because they hate confrontations.

Yeah, but I want to spend my time like I was living in the city, that means a ton of time in shops, restaurants, etc. Interactions with the locals. Sounds like not the best time to do that. Will wait to see how it shakes out.
On our last visit, I was very cognizant of the hard working folks. We tipped generously. The price of ubers are insanely cheap. I don't understand how the drivers actually make any money. Going from the Reforma area to historic center for $3 or $4 dollars? Our tips were often larger than the fare itself.

Global Adventurer Jul 10, 2025 8:44 am


Originally Posted by pbiflyer (Post 37196738)
Yeah, but I want to spend my time like I was living in the city, that means a ton of time in shops, restaurants, etc. Interactions with the locals. Sounds like not the best time to do that. Will wait to see how it shakes out.
On our last visit, I was very cognizant of the hard working folks. We tipped generously. The price of ubers are insanely cheap. I don't understand how the drivers actually make any money. Going from the Reforma area to historic center for $3 or $4 dollars? Our tips were often larger than the fare itself.

When I said "Just stay in a Hotel", I meant don't stay in an Airbnb because many people know where they are and you could be a target. I've mentioned this before, the fact I was living in the center of Roma Norte for a year and a half and moved because of the influx of foreigners and the fact I was being treated negatively by the locals. I could tell then they didn't want me there. Whenever you do return, be aware of what's going on. Like I said it's the little things they do that are not so obvious to most people. Take your business elsewhere when you see it happening. I stopped giving large tips. I used to when I first moved there but that contributes to the problem, unless you have a boatload of luggage. Also the typical Mexican only makes $600 per month, definitely not more than $1000. The average annual income in the USA is considered very wealthy in Mexico. Most of them live with their families their entire life and don't pay for an apartment or house. Most of the houses are passed down and whoever lives there just pays for the upkeep and taxes. I'm glad I got out of CDMX when I did.

Global Adventurer Jul 12, 2025 7:14 am

⚠️ Heads up: Anti-Gentrification March Sunday, July 20 @3pm
 
An Anti-Gentrification Demonstration and March is scheduled for Sunday, July 20 @3pm. The participants will meet at Fuentes Brotantes de Tlalpan National Park in the Alcaldía of Tlalpan, south of the city. They will march north through the city.

If you're in town on that day, expect some possible disturbances and avoid the demonstration.

Side note: Tlalpan is the headquarters of the Morena Party and home to President Claudia Sheinbaum and previous president AMLO. It's possible that this demonstration could gain a lot of traction.

"Mexico City is preparing for a new mobilization against gentrification. This time, the announced route will be in the south of the capital, and the call is open to "the entire city."

This march will be the second protest organized against the phenomenon of gentrification, which has generated growing tensions in the capital due to rising housing costs, the massive influx of wealthy foreigners, and the displacement of traditional communities.

The protest seeks to highlight the impact of real estate speculation, vertical development, and platforms like Airbnb in popular areas of the city. Although there has been no official confirmation from the authorities, the organizers insist the demonstration will be peaceful and cultural." -PubliMETRO

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8902b78e8.jpeg


jmrp Jul 14, 2025 3:32 pm


Originally Posted by Global Adventurer (Post 37190530)
No problem at all. If the Mexican government doesn't appease this group and others they will certainly be in Quintana Roo too. It's on their list too from what I've been reading on social media. Hopefully, your upcoming visits will be uneventful.

Well great. Ugh.

Our trip in a few weeks is to a resort near Puerto Aventuras for the whole trip, so we won't be out & about too much. My husband will go diving a few times from Akumal. But, our Dec & April trips are to Mahahual (small local hotel for the 1st half of the trips) & Akumal (condo rental on Half Moon Bay for the 2nd half of the trips). A whole lot of out & about on those trips (as well as the condo rentals) !!

I'll keep a close eye on news about this as well as your posts !!

Global Adventurer Jul 14, 2025 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by jmrp (Post 37204822)
Well great. Ugh.

Our trip in a few weeks is to a resort near Puerto Aventuras for the whole trip, so we won't be out & about too much. My husband will go diving a few times from Akumal. But, our Dec & April trips are to Mahahual (small local hotel for the 1st half of the trips) & Akumal (condo rental on Half Moon Bay for the 2nd half of the trips). A whole lot of out & about on those trips (as well as the condo rentals) !!

I'll keep a close eye on news about this as well as your posts !!

Puerto Aventuras would be close to last on their list! I wouldn't worry about that area at all because it's mainly hotels/condo rentals. I've stayed in that area before. The top locations would be Tulum, Cancun centro, and other cities like San Miguel, not the hotel zones. But right now they are focusing on cities and neighborhoods where the local people live, where you purchase houses.

I've gone to some of their social media sites and they are even talking about boycotting and protesting the FIFA match next year in Mexico City. They are not happy with all the remodeling of the airport and other areas for "visitors" and not caring about the citizens who live in the city and all the houses and apartments that will be rented out. Currently, Mexico City is a hot kettle on the stove ready to boil over. But you'll be ok. Enjoy your trip!

As a side note: As I had mentioned I move out of an apartment in CDMX and decided to rent a full-service hotel, that in no way can be construed as an apartment or somewhere the locals would want to rent. I just don't need any issues.

jmrp Jul 14, 2025 4:12 pm


Originally Posted by Global Adventurer (Post 37204847)
Puerto Aventuras would be close to last on their list! I wouldn't worry about that area at all because it's mainly hotels/condo rentals. I've stayed in that area before. The top locations would be Tulum, Cancun centro, and other cities like San Miguel, not the hotel zones. But right now they are focusing on cities and neighborhoods where the local people live, where you purchase houses.

I've gone to some of their social media sites and they are even talking about boycotting and protesting the FIFA match next year in Mexico City. They are not happy with all the remodeling of the airport and other areas for "visitors" and not caring about the citizens who live in the city and all the houses and apartments that will be rented out. Currently, Mexico City is a hot kettle on the stove ready to boil over. But you'll be ok. Enjoy your trip!

As a side note: As I had mentioned I move out of an apartment in CDMX and decided to rent a full-service hotel, that in no way can be construed as an apartment or somewhere the locals would want to rent. I just don't need any issues.


Ha, yeah, I would imagine that Pto Avent. wouldn't be a hotbed of protests. :-) Probably just not large enough of a town for maximum impact. And, Pto Avent proper doesn't really have houses/apts that would be purchased by foreigners (I would guess).

Not ideal for you, but at least you're still lucky enough to be living in Mexico !! :-)

After 3 dozen or so trips to Q Roo over the years (& counting) our hope is to at least spends our winters down there at some point. (fingers crossed) (in a vacation rental, of course, so I guess we're part of the problem :eek: )


Global Adventurer Jul 14, 2025 8:04 pm

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The Protesters newest flyer includes their sponsors, but I can't remove my file information from it, so I deleted it.

Global Adventurer Jul 16, 2025 10:26 am

CDMX government announced that during the newest planned protest scheduled for July 20th, they will have a large security presence to help prevent damages to businesses and other property. Last time, security was sorely lacking. So visitors to the city for the most part shouldn't be in harms way if they avoid the group.

https://vanguardia.com.mx/noticias/m...d2920287435481

Global Adventurer Jul 19, 2025 11:53 am

Here's the announcement from the CDMX Police Chief regarding their stance on the demonstration tomorrow, Sunday, 20 July. I'm unable to locate a written version or news article of their plan because they put it in a video only for now.

In a nutshell, the CDMX security will arrest anyone in possession of criminal tools, causing destruction etc. The demonstration is authorized, free speech is authorized, but destruction or physical assaults will not be tolerated. The US Embassy specifically instructed US Citizens to not participate in this demonstration or they will lose their visas, etc (as in all demonstrations worldwide). Mexicans on social media have been posting this on their social media websites. I've already posted it in on the "Embassy Alert" page for Mexico. So, avoid the area and don't give them a reason to interact.

When I find a written security plan I will post it in this thread.


BELOW: I've decided to post the US Embassy announcement below so there's no mistake about their message to anyone from the USA including their staff should avoid traveling to Tlalpan on 20 July.

July 18, 2025
Location: Tlalpan, between Fuentes Brotantes and El Caminero
Event: Anti-gentrification demonstrations are expected to take place on Sunday, July 20 starting at 3:00 p.m. A previous demonstration occurred in the Roma and Condesa neighborhoods on July 4, and some in that group vandalized property and threw rocks at people perceived to be foreigners. U.S. government personnel are advised to avoid the demonstration area. U.S. citizens should avoid participating in demonstrations that may be deemed political by authorities, as Mexican law prohibits political activities by foreign citizens, and participation may result in detention or deportation. Expect traffic congestion, enhanced police presence, and increased security measures in the area.

Actions to Take:

Demonstrations can be unpredictable; avoid areas around protests and demonstrations.
Monitor local media for updates.
Follow the directions of local authorities and in case of emergency, call 911.
U.S. Citizen Assistance: 

Contact Form
U.S. Embassy and Consulates in Mexico
From Mexico: (55) 8526 2561
From the United States:  +1-844-528-6611
Department of State – Consular Affairs:  +1-888-407-4747 or +1-202-501-4444
Links: 

Mexico International Travel information 
U.S. Citizens in Mexico WhatsApp Channel
U.S. Passports
Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP) 
Department of State on Facebook  and X 
U.S. Embassy in Mexico on Facebook  and X 
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