This would go against the Best Rate Guarantee as it wouldn't provide a fence for the special rate

I don't think it warrants a sticky; however the HSIA thread I start a while back might.

I will be updating the Inventory Availability thread on Monday once I see if there is any PAID inventory available for booking at the Orlando JW as promised by the hotel, or if the Vail Marriott has any Stay Almost Anytime if We Decide to Let You awards on nioghts that have standard room availablility. I would ask if anyone wanted to bet if there is inventory available for booking at the JW Orlando past January 5 2008 come Monday, but I doubt I would get any takers. I won the last bet, that Marriott would not handle this in a timely manner.

Just a point of clarity, until recently hotels have not regained the ground they've lost since 9/11/01

I think the Original Thread as it was even with the Corp Codes should be put back up. If I so choose to use a Code that Im not entitled to and Im called on it upon checkin then its Me who will be embrassed or have to fork over Rack Rate:eek: . As I said before there are Corp rates that I maybe entitled to use so theres nothing wrong in having them up. let MR do whatever it wishes to in order to make sure that those who arent entitled to use them dont. That shouldnt be FTs job.

How long till ALL the rental codes are Deleted, I know someone who did go with a Code for Avis and got called on it and ended up having to pay alot more then had he made a res w/o any codes when he did. Avis and everyone else was out of cars (no it wasnt me).

So if anything Marriott can gain very nicely if they Call someone out on the Code that they used and dont have the proper proff necessary as the person will then have to anti-up Full Rack or whatever rate the Hotel wishes to charge them, especially if its after the time for cancellation.

Im sure they can get a heck of alot more $$$$ if they wanted to sell the property today then back in 2001, and not because of 9-11. But cause Real Estate prices have Zoomed Up.

Lets see most Hotel Companies that are on the Stock Exchange are releasing record earnings and seeing their stk price hit new highs. And Im to believe they havent regained their ground. In most parts of the US govt rates have more then doubled from the 01 rates, as have all rates.

Oh poor Marriott, I would help them out, BUT I ALREADY HAVE!

You're right, but just to make your point crystal clear, they have more than regained ground compared with net income from 1999 & 2000 of $400,000,000 and $479,000,000 repectively.

MAR $717,000,000 in net profits ttm. Net income for last 8 years:

2006 Net Income - $608,000,000
2005 Net Income - $669,000,000
2004 Net Income - $596,000,000
2003 Net Income - $502,000,000
2002 Net Income - $277,000,000
2001 Net Income - $236,000,000
2000 Net Income - $479,000,000
1999 Net Income - $400,000,000

GREED

But it appears Marriott does not want any rate codes of any kind publicized anywhere in anyway other than their own website / media.

and what metrics would you be using to come up with that statement?

what they want and what they get are not always going to happen ;)

From personal experience what typically occurs in these situations is the person who's not eligible to use the code becomes rather pushy at checkin (not saying everyone is that way but from my personal experience it's the majority of the time), it's not fair to the desk clerks....People who are eligible to use an contracted rate will have access to the rates via the organizations travel directory program

I'm not sure what property you're referring to, MI leases their corporate HQ's, they sold their land in Frederick County, MD some years ago, I believe the data center in Frederick is still owned though, they own less than 10 hotels worldwide....they switched to a hotel management/franchise company in the early 90's

Net profit has nothing to do with RevPAR (Revenue Per Avail Room)...the majority of that growth has come from franchise growth and other tax means such as Syn Fuel Credits, true RevPAR declined until recently (that is the measurement Wall Street uses for hotel companies)

Unfortunately I have no knowlege...sorry

RevPAR, the industry standard used by Wall Street (There have been numerious articles floating about from both PWC and Smith Travel Research over the years on this trend)

Possibly very true :)