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SkiAdcock Mar 2, 2015 9:02 am
Originally Posted by scottmlew (Post 24436869)
(posted in MR-specific forum b/c I'm interested in Marriott properties in particular)

I'm at a property where the "honor bar" is served by an attendant...there aren't any glasses out, presumably to enforce this policy. And the hard liquor is offered in multiple serving sizes (at different prices) and is measured out in a jigger, so no "generous pours". How typical is this for Marriott "honor bars"? Typically I see true honor bars, where patrons can serve themselves, and I also have been heartily encouraged by most CL attendants to serve myself generously.
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I think it's more the exception than the norm given the # of Marriott properties. It's also not exclusive to Marriott. I know of two Hiltons that have lounge attendants who serve vs. the patrons serving themselves (but I also think it's more the exception at Hiltons too).

Cheers.

RogerD408 Mar 2, 2015 9:04 am
I'm not so sure one has a "right" to consume their own alcohol anywhere in a hotel such as a public area like the club room. Asking is always the best approach and if there is any push back, move the party to your room.

SkiAdcock Mar 2, 2015 9:04 am
Originally Posted by JamesEaston (Post 24439938)
That is so absurdly not true. The exec lounge does not have it's own license, the hotel has a license.

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT to bring wine into a hotel, which includes the exec lounge. If you get so drunk that they think you may be a danger to yourself or others, or are disturbing others, they would ask you to leave. Although the same is true if you are buying their wine.

To think otherwise is ridiculous. Start making some calls and emails and find one Marriott affiliated property that says you are forbidden from bringing wine into their hotel, or its lounge. You won't find one, but good luck trying.
Since most of the honor bar system is in the US which has 50 states with differing alcohol laws, it's a bit silly to make absolute statements IMO.

Cheers.

iztok Mar 2, 2015 11:30 am
Marriott Seattle Airport has the attendant (who is very nice and attentive) pour and serve alcoholic drinks. Their prices are also awesome as they probably have not been updated in a decade.

fordan Mar 2, 2015 2:12 pm
Originally Posted by JamesEaston (Post 24439938)
EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT to bring wine into a hotel, which includes the exec lounge. If you get so drunk that they think you may be a danger to yourself or others, or are disturbing others, they would ask you to leave. Although the same is true if you are buying their wine.

To think otherwise is ridiculous. Start making some calls and emails and find one Marriott affiliated property that says you are forbidden from bringing wine into their hotel, or its lounge. You won't find one, but good luck trying.
Lots of hotels officially charge corkage fees on alcohol you bring in yourself although most won’t notice/care if you bring a bottle or two in if you’re discreet. But I know at least the Atlanta Marriott Marquis has stopped friends of mine from bringing in alcohol (although admittedly during Dragoncon where a tad more drinking than normal occurs).

4getofn Mar 2, 2015 2:58 pm
I am seeing more alcohol behind the locked doors 😉 In the last 3 months I have experienced these properties with an attendant serving.

Charlotte City Center
Both full service in Downtown Salt Lake City (gee surprise)
Marriott Seattle Airport
Renaissance Las Vegas Convention Center

kennycrudup Mar 2, 2015 3:08 pm
Originally Posted by JamesEaston (Post 24439938)
Start making some calls and emails and find one Marriott affiliated property that says you are forbidden from bringing wine into their hotel, or its lounge.
Hell, I'll walk in past the front desk with plastic grocery-store bags full of groceries and alcohol and nobody's ever said a word, be it an SHS or a JW.

Often1 Mar 2, 2015 3:08 pm
Originally Posted by JamesEaston (Post 24439938)
That is so absurdly not true. The exec lounge does not have it's own license, the hotel has a license.

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT to bring wine into a hotel, which includes the exec lounge. If you get so drunk that they think you may be a danger to yourself or others, or are disturbing others, they would ask you to leave. Although the same is true if you are buying their wine.

To think otherwise is ridiculous. Start making some calls and emails and find one Marriott affiliated property that says you are forbidden from bringing wine into their hotel, or its lounge. You won't find one, but good luck trying.



Not a single word of it was misinformation. When you refer to "establishments" and some website, you're not talking about hotels. This thread is about exec lounges of hotels and hotels so see above, and previous post for all correct information.
You must not have read what I wrote. You have conflagrated the posts in this thread which deal with the possibility that some properties' liquor licenses may prohibit outside booze (corkage) with possible prohibitions against bringing food and beverage into rooms (typically reserved for higher end resorts).

When you do read the posts, you may want to edit out the word "absurd" or accept that it is absurd but true.

CJKatl Mar 2, 2015 3:58 pm
Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 24442508)
You must not have read what I wrote. You have conflagrated the posts in this thread which deal with the possibility that some properties' liquor licenses may prohibit outside booze (corkage) with possible prohibitions against bringing food and beverage into rooms (typically reserved for higher end resorts).
There is also a difference between what you can do in a room for which you have a contract for occupancy and what you can do in common areas. For example, it might be completely acceptable to walk around naked in your contracted room, but it wouldn't be acceptable in the common areas. The fact you can consume legally purchase alcohol in your room doesn't automatically grant permission to do so in common areas, any more than you can walk around naked in common areas.

jsucool76 Mar 2, 2015 6:17 pm
While I have no problem with a CL having a bartender, don't call it an honor bar if they do. I stayed at a CY last year that said they had an honor bar. No honor bar to be found.


Anyone know if the JW Essex House's honor bar is a real honor bar?

joshua362 Mar 2, 2015 6:36 pm
Originally Posted by jsucool76 (Post 24443391)
While I have no problem with a CL having a bartender, don't call it an honor bar if they do. I stayed at a CY last year that said they had an honor bar. No honor bar to be found.


Anyone know if the JW Essex House's honor bar is a real honor bar?
I think its staffed when I was there in August. So is the ATL REN Waverly. Annoying waiting for them to setup and in the the middle she closed it down to do errands and disappeared for like 20 minutes. Super ridiculous. They used to ration the cokes that way too...

Jresn02 Mar 2, 2015 7:03 pm
Originally Posted by joshua362 (Post 24443475)
I think its staffed when I was there in August. So is the ATL REN Waverly. Annoying waiting for them to setup and in the the middle she closed it down to do errands and disappeared for like 20 minutes. Super ridiculous. They used to ration the cokes that way too...
I have no problem with an attendant serving me a drink. I have a problem waiting 10 minutes like an idiot waiting on the attendant with 100 responsibilities to pour me a drink that is 1.5x the price as downstairs all while spilling the 1oz jigger into my glass and calling that a lounge.

Same person who when asked where to eat says I have no idea...

iztok Mar 2, 2015 7:59 pm
Originally Posted by 4getofn (Post 24442430)
I am seeing more alcohol behind the locked doors 😉 In the last 3 months I have experienced these properties with an attendant serving.

Charlotte City Center
Both full service in Downtown Salt Lake City (gee surprise)
Marriott Seattle Airport
Renaissance Las Vegas Convention Center
Marriott Seattle Airport has very reasonable priced booze and attendant knows what you drink when you are semi-regular even if it was a year since one was there. Price is way less than bar downstairs.

dayone Mar 2, 2015 8:14 pm
Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 24442508)
You have conflagrated the posts in this thread which deal with the possibility that some properties' liquor licenses may prohibit outside booze (corkage) with possible prohibitions against bringing food and beverage into rooms (typically reserved for higher end resorts).
Your allegation of "conflagration" belongs in the fire alarm thread. The correct term here is "conflated"

JamesEaston Mar 3, 2015 1:54 am
Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 24442508)
You must not have read what I wrote. You have conflagrated the posts in this thread which deal with the possibility that some properties' liquor licenses may prohibit outside booze (corkage) with possible prohibitions against bringing food and beverage into rooms (typically reserved for higher end resorts).

When you do read the posts, you may want to edit out the word "absurd" or accept that it is absurd but true.
I'm not sure the point of this post. Beyond the misuse of the word "conflagrated", you falsely suggested that I was referring to rooms. Yet in every post I referred to lounges, bars and restaurants.

The hysterical irony is the you started with "you must not have read what I wrote" yet quoted my exact posts which always spoke about lounges etc. That's kind of absurd, isn't it.


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