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socrates Jul 26, 2012 5:00 am


Originally Posted by bulldoggolfer05 (Post 18998208)
Or so protocol says, doesn't mean that's how it plays out.

Recently exchanged a car with Avis due to air in the fuel line (can cause stalling and was a simple fix only necessitating bleeding of the fuel line). Hopefully SOP with regard to a maintenance exchange would require the car to be pulled from service and checked out before renting again, but upon realizing I'd left things in the old car about 45 minutes later, learned that the car had already been rented back out (yes, I realize this is a hotel forum, not car rental, but proof what a company is supposed to do and actually does is two totally different things).

you are correct there's nothing that forces someone to follow the pest control company's recommendation however it's quite silly not to...just think of the costs associated with an out of control pest issue (Mattresses aren't cheap)...then think of the lost business as a result of the situation getting out of control...I've yet to find anyone who's pushing the boundaries on this issue inside the industry

socrates Jul 26, 2012 5:02 am


Originally Posted by chitownjeff (Post 18998430)
I wouldn't mind see a sticky here where people can list hotel and rooms where they have seen them.

12 years traveling and haven't had an issue yet, but I'd like to know if I'm going to a hotel where they have had an issue before so I know to look out.

eventually every apartment complex, hotel, condo will be listed on that sticky...it's like saying there are restaurants and grocery stores without palmetto bugs

socrates Jul 26, 2012 5:04 am


Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 19003590)
FF. OK. That's on par with motel 6 or red roof inn, IMHO, and I would expect bedbugs from time to time, if for no other reason than the clientele that would frequent this level of property and moving between similar one and two star motels.

Yes yes, I know. There have been reports of issues at five star properties as well but probably not nearly to the extent. As I say I have not run into any bedbugs in 2000 nights.

(let the flames begin).

hate to say this but folks who travel internationally are more likely to provide free rides to bedbugs than those who stay domestically (remember we haven't had a bedbug issue until the past few years, the common thought is folks brought them back to the US with them from international locations)....socialeconomic factors theirselves do not predict who will bring bedbugs with them other than the fact that those higher on the scale tend to travel more internationally than those lower

FlyerTalker683455 Jul 26, 2012 5:50 am


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 19004315)
hate to say this but folks who travel internationally are more likely to provide free rides to bedbugs than those who stay domestically (remember we haven't had a bedbug issue until the past few years, the common thought is folks brought them back to the US with them from international locations)....socialeconomic factors theirselves do not predict who will bring bedbugs with them other than the fact that those higher on the scale tend to travel more internationally than those lower

I agree that that's definitely a factor.

I would expect that higher revenue properties would have the funds to make a more serious effort both looking for and treating the issue though.

lovely15 Jul 26, 2012 8:43 am


Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 19003590)
FF. OK. That's on par with motel 6 or red roof inn, IMHO, and I would expect bedbugs from time to time, if for no other reason than the clientele that would frequent this level of property and moving between similar one and two star motels.

I don't think this is true. This particular clientele stays in 1-5 star properties and stayed in this FI because it was the only Marriott property nearby. I suspect that's the case for lots of people who stay there. It was also not inexpensive, at $149 a night. Yes, I consider that a lot for a FI, and not on par with motel 6 (not that I've ever stayed at one).

I would agree with the PP who said hotels catering to international travelers probably have bigger issues.

SkiAdcock Jul 26, 2012 9:57 am


Originally Posted by lovely15 (Post 19003445)
It was the Fairfield Inn & Suites Bremerton.

I just got an email from the manager apologizing. I have to say, I do wish Marriott would answer themselves sometimes instead of foisting off emails on hotel management.

I thought you were emailing the hotel management w/ the compliments & complaint, not Marriott corp.

Other than saying we're sorry you had the problem, but glad the hotel stepped up to the plate (for the most part) & thanks for letting us know about the cleaning, what exactly were you expecting from Marriott corp?

Them forwarding your email to the property actually makes sense to me, since it's the property that needs to know what worked/what didn't.

Cheers.

lovely15 Jul 26, 2012 10:56 am


Originally Posted by SkiAdcock (Post 19005880)
Other than saying we're sorry you had the problem, but glad the hotel stepped up to the plate (for the most part) & thanks for letting us know about the cleaning, what exactly were you expecting from Marriott corp?
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Dunno. It's just that the last time I had an issue (room not being cleaned for two weeks) and they forwarded it to the hotel, the manager was rude and un-apologetic, so it left a bad taste in my mouth. As if Marriott doesn't want anything escalated.

SkiAdcock Jul 26, 2012 11:40 am


Originally Posted by lovely15 (Post 19006303)
Dunno. It's just that the last time I had an issue (room not being cleaned for two weeks) and they forwarded it to the hotel, the manager was rude and un-apologetic, so it left a bad taste in my mouth. As if Marriott doesn't want anything escalated.

Well in that case, I would have re-emailed Marriott & told them the manager's attitude, & that it wasn't acceptable. Of course, if it was me, I would have been in the manager's face in person long before the 2 week period :D

But I think it's the norm, unless there's something greviously wrong, for Marriott to forward to the hotel the emails so the hotel can take action (or not).

In the case of the bedbug, it sounds like the hotel did step up to the plate w/ the comp'd room, switch of room & cleaning (well 1/2 of cleaning) & your email to Marriott/which was forwarded to the mgr, resulted in an additional apology (and probably a learning/teaching experience).

Cheers.

3piggy Jul 26, 2012 4:13 pm


Originally Posted by SacTownGuy (Post 18985342)
That's a tough one. My mom has had bedbugs at two different Marriotts in the last couple years. Both locations were up front, honest, admitted it and all was good. Points for a few free nights each time. This last time was major and mom ended up in the emergency room (no joke) but she didn't want to push it. Your case brings up an added element. I would probably present it to the local Marriott exactly like you did here. You aren't trying to get something for free, were really impressed by how they handled it, BUT you feel very frustrated by the clothes issue. See what they suggest. They'll give you 75k or 100k points pretty easily. That might make everything feel better!?

i wonder if someone should start a list of properties with bedbug problems. I'd rather not get the 100k points than ruining all my clothes.

socrates Jul 27, 2012 5:37 am


Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 19004466)
I agree that that's definitely a factor.

I would expect that higher revenue properties would have the funds to make a more serious effort both looking for and treating the issue though.

I can't speak for "red roof or motel 6" but all hotels (including Fairfield Inn's) have a financial incentive to be sure they immediately and properly treat all situations (and even the smallest Fairfield Inn has the resources to properly handle such a situation)

FlyerTalker683455 Jul 27, 2012 6:03 am


Originally Posted by socrates (Post 19011263)
I can't speak for "red roof or motel 6" but all hotels (including Fairfield Inn's) have a financial incentive to be sure they immediately and properly treat all situations (and even the smallest Fairfield Inn has the resources to properly handle such a situation)

Yes, but do they? Do they have the management and staff who care? Do they follow SOP?

Let me pose the question to Sharon and others which thousands of nights: have you EVER been in 5* hotel suite which had bedbugs?

SkiAdcock Jul 27, 2012 9:54 am


Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 19011334)
Yes, but do they? Do they have the management and staff who care? Do they follow SOP?

Let me pose the question to Sharon and others which thousands of nights: have you EVER been in 5* hotel suite which had bedbugs?

And the answer was yes. 5* are not exempt from bedbug issues. Enough with it is only the low-end hotels argument.

We get you haven't encountered bedbugs. A lot of us haven't or only a few times. Doesn't mean they don't show up in a room, and have usually been brought there inadvertently by a traveler.

I would hazard a guess that most properties (especially the high-end ones) do follow SOP if there's an infestation. Main reason being $$-driven & 2nd image.

Cheers.

lovely15 Jul 27, 2012 10:35 am


Originally Posted by Allvest (Post 19011334)
Let me pose the question to Sharon and others which thousands of nights: have you EVER been in 5* hotel suite which had bedbugs?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1233907.html

Is the Ritz high end enough for you?

Kate_Canuck Jul 27, 2012 11:57 am

I must admit, the bedbug risk freaks me out a bit and my current practice is to check for bedbug reports before staying at any hotel. If I find a report, I don't stay there. It has been surprisingly difficult to find a moderate-high end Marriott, Hilton or Starwood property in SFO without reported incidents.

I realize that many hotels have had isolated problems. I also realize that the fact that hotel has never had a report doesn't guarantee that it's bedbug-free today. Eventually, I'm going to have to stay at a hotel that has had a reported incident (or more than one) and it's likely, given how often I travel, that I'm going to end up "encountering" the little critters. (And if that happens, I plan to throw everything out except the clothes on my back - and then strip down and walk naked into my house.)

But until every hotel I'd want to stay at has a bedbug report, I'm still planning to choose the ones that are incident-free.

SacTownGuy Jul 27, 2012 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by Kate_Canuck (Post 19013278)
I must admit, the bedbug risk freaks me out a bit and my current practice is to check for bedbug reports before staying at any hotel. If I find a report, I don't stay there. It has been surprisingly difficult to find a moderate-high end Marriott, Hilton or Starwood property in SFO without reported incidents.

I realize that many hotels have had isolated problems. I also realize that the fact that hotel has never had a report doesn't guarantee that it's bedbug-free today. Eventually, I'm going to have to stay at a hotel that has had a reported incident (or more than one) and it's likely, given how often I travel, that I'm going to end up "encountering" the little critters. (And if that happens, I plan to throw everything out except the clothes on my back - and then strip down and walk naked into my house.)

But until every hotel I'd want to stay at has a bedbug report, I'm still planning to choose the ones that are incident-free.


You are certainly careful. To me life is way too short for all that. WAY!


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