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Happy Apr 14, 2022 9:16 pm

Why can't the OP just not check out until the morning of 6th day? You do not even need to personally present to check out. It sounds like they were trying to save one night's rate and now wound up lose several times of that.

planes&trains Apr 14, 2022 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by Kiki Karakatsani (Post 34164656)
when I checked in I mentioned to the reception that I had made a mistake and booked for 5 nights instead of 4 that I was staying and asked if this will impact my bill and the answer was; NO!

If it has never happened to the OP before, why did it cross OP's mind to ask at checkin whether it will "impact my bill?"

lost_in_translation Apr 14, 2022 10:38 pm

There are shades of hidden city airline ticketing to this whole discussion, I think!

My personal view is:
- If the OP booked a rate which required a minimum number of nights to be valid and the OP tried to check out before the minimum number of nights, the hotel has a right to reprice the stay to the current best available rate for whatever number of nights the stay was
- If the OP’s rate didn’t require a minimum number of nights, then the OP should just be charged whatever their booked stay cost was - charging extra for dropping one night apart from in the above situation is ridiculous

I frequently stay at resort hotels where official hotel guidance is you should book an extra night if you want late check out as it can’t be guaranteed. Are you telling me when I check out of my current stay next week at 7pm the hotel should reprice my entire stay because I didn’t stay another 5 hours?

I do agree the OP should have just left and then sent an email to the hotel on the day of check out saying ‘sorry, I didn’t have time to drop by the front desk but I have checked out’.

supatight80 Apr 14, 2022 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by planes&trains (Post 34166423)
If it has never happened to the OP before, why did it cross OP's mind to ask at checkin whether it will "impact my bill?"

Oh kiki knew what she was doing...

mikebor Apr 14, 2022 11:07 pm


Originally Posted by Kiki Karakatsani (Post 34164876)
We were rushing to get to the airport as they told us the lines are huge - I only reviewed the invoice on email when I got home. I've never experienced this before and have never seen this happen with any of the hotels I stayed at.

I think it's total BS what this hotel did to you but don't expect much sympathy in this forum. I've learned this over the years reading lots of other threads.

In my humble opinion though getting back to what this hotel did to you, if you can remember the name of the person who told you that changing the # of nights would NOT impact the rate - that should help. I would think the GM would work with you to come up with a fair resolution but then again the way Marriott imo has gone so downhill who really knows. I wish you luck perhaps getting this worked out because I think it's so wrong.

LAX Apr 14, 2022 11:10 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 34166317)
Why can't the OP just not check out until the morning of 6th day? You do not even need to personally present to check out. It sounds like they were trying to save one night's rate and now wound up lose several times of that.

How easy is it to check out remotely? I personally have always stopped by the FD to get a hard copy of the folio just in case there might be errors before I leave the property.

LAX

mikebor Apr 14, 2022 11:20 pm

By the way, I just went on tripadvisor and read some recent reviews. A lot of poor 1 star ratings. And imo Paul the GM in his responses comes off as arrogant and condescending. I can tell right away just after reading a few of his replies to guests he is not empathetic at all. I travel a ton and my experience has been the vast majority of GM's will try and work out a resolution with the guest and go above and beyond. But not all of course. I go to Las Vegas a fair amount and I could never stay at this hotel with him as GM. I don't believe he would have my back at all if there were any service issues. His replies are very unimpressive so no thanks for me.

BRITINJAPAN4 Apr 14, 2022 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by supatight80 (Post 34166012)
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Hmmm. You're unto something here....

But how I WISH it would be the case for all of us that we book an extended stay rate or a promo rate that's much cheaper if we book a minimum number of nights and then at check in, say "oh I made a 'mistake', I'd like to shorten the reservation for 1 or 2 nights instead of X number of nights with the same rate."

And when was this mistake known? I would have changed the reservation asap instead of winging it at check-in if I didn't have a hidden agenda.


I would have done the same as the OP, but...asked for written confirmation that the rate would be honored.

krazykanuck Apr 15, 2022 12:47 am


Originally Posted by LAX (Post 34166478)
How easy is it to check out remotely?

just do it in the app. or if feeling really lazy, just do nothing and leave the keys on the desk or whatever in the room. The hotel will assume you checked out whenever they get around. I've been "checked out" of a room in the mid afternoon despite using the express checkout key drop in the morning, it all depends on when they bother to do it.

Oxon Flyer Apr 15, 2022 3:25 am


Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN4 (Post 34165889)
Because the terms and conditions state clearly that in this situation the Hotel CAN apply BAR, this has been quoted a couple of times up thread.

Would be helpful, for this thread and future reference, if you could link to where this is stated in the T&Cs.

Maestro Ramen Apr 15, 2022 4:49 am

Does the land of the free not have legislation in place regarding unreasonable pricing or made up fees?

In the UK, the small claims court judge would laugh the hotel out of the courtroom if they seriously tried to explain how in the world they can charge you more for staying less nights, as this - both logically and legally - would not stand.

Adam1222 Apr 15, 2022 6:47 am


Originally Posted by Maestro Ramen (Post 34166929)
Does the land of the free not have legislation in place regarding unreasonable pricing or made up fees?

In the UK, the small claims court judge would laugh the hotel out of the courtroom if they seriously tried to explain how in the world they can charge you more for staying less nights, as this - both logically and legally - would not stand.

No, in the United States there is no legislation that bars hotels from charging you the going rate when you change your reservation. If there is in the UK, maybe I'll see if I can change a 5 night reservation for February in Scotland to one for a 4 night one in July and insist they cannot charge me more.

Keyser Apr 15, 2022 7:08 am


Originally Posted by Maestro Ramen (Post 34166929)
Does the land of the free not have legislation in place regarding unreasonable pricing or made up fees?

In the UK, the small claims court judge would laugh the hotel out of the courtroom if they seriously tried to explain how in the world they can charge you more for staying less nights, as this - both logically and legally - would not stand.

I have a friend who owns a Sheraton & I was discussing this issue with him a number of years ago. He said that hotels often offer lower rates for longer stays so a 3 night or 5 night or 7 night stay would cost considerably less than booking 3 or 5 or 7 individual nights on the same dates. He also says his hotel comes across guests trying to take advantage of this situation frequently by for example booking 5 nights at the lower rate, only to intend staying 4 nights & trying to reduce the number of nights stayed during check-in.

So in these situations a small claims court judge would certainly appreciate why a higher rate was charged if the terms of the lower rate were not met by a reduction in the number of days stayed.

bellerophontes Apr 15, 2022 7:29 am

Common logic dictates that the hotel should charge the agreed amount for the original nights booked, despite the early check-out, if that's lower than the recalculated amount for the nights stayed, since that was the contract.

Charging more than the amount agreed at booking, for less nights stayed is insane.

Maestro Ramen Apr 15, 2022 8:58 am


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 34167146)
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So in these situations a small claims court judge would certainly appreciate why a higher rate was charged if the terms of the lower rate were not met by a reduction in the number of days stayed.

Charging a higher rate to compensate for the 1 less night: certainly yes
Forfeiting the extra night entirely due to no cancellation policy: why not.

But charging more for 4 nights, than for 5 nights combined: no, no, and no. Absolutely impossible to justify in rational terms. I would LOVE to see someone try this on small claims court.


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