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purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 3:08 pm

Marriott Suites: Are They Still Around
 
Anyone remember Marriott Suites? Is that brand still around? Why is Marriott Suites super rare (according to Floridian Elevators on Youtube)?

I'm only asking because my parents stayed at one in Deerfield IL back when it was new in 1991 (according to my father, the pool wasn't even open).

I will say this, the tub and shower being seperate back in the early 90's (Marriott Suites has been around since 1987) was innovative and it still is in 2020.

CALMSP Sep 18, 2020 3:49 pm

ORD still has one.

DELee Sep 18, 2020 3:55 pm

Chicago Marriott Suites Deerfield
Bethesda Marriott Suites

Washington Dulles Marriott Suites
Anaheim Marriott Suites
Chicago Marriott Suites O'Hare

David

Horace Sep 18, 2020 4:06 pm

In the late 1980s, it seemed that Marriott Suites would be the next big thing for Marriott. Other chains were successful with all-suite properties, and Marriott did not want to miss the boat. After a short burst of Marriott Suites properties, new full-service all-suite properties became a rarity. But there were still occasionally new ones. The Anaheim property was product of the early 21st century, if I recall correctly.

Marriott Suites properties are still around.

Some have been rebranded. Marriott Suites in suburban Columbus became Sheraton Suites decades before Marriott acquired Starwood. Marriott Suites in downtown San Diego because Sheraton Suites, and then Declan Suites, before once again donning the Marriott brand as a Marriott Vacation Club Pulse property.

A few dropped "Suites" from their names. Costa Mesa, Newport Beach (Bayview), and Scottsdale (Old Town) come to mind.

There are probably more, but the list below has the properties that I'm aware of. If I put an asterisk in front of the name, I stayed there when it was a Marriott Suites property.

Anaheim Marriott Suites
Atlanta Marriott Suites Midtown
* Bethesda Marriott Suites
Chicago Marriott Suites Deerfield
* Chicago Marriott Suites Downers Grove
* Costa Mesa Marriott
* Marriott Vacation Club Pulse, San Diego
Newport Beach Marriott Bayview
* Sheraton Suites Columbus Worthington
Scottsdale Marriott Old Town
Washington Dulles Marriott Suites

purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 4:09 pm

Thank you for bringing up the Deerfield one.

DELee Sep 18, 2020 4:10 pm

Marriott Suites Pune
Atlanta Marriott Suites Midtown
Dallas Marriott Suites Medical/Market Center
Chicago Marriott Suites Downers Grove
Clearwater Beach Marriott Suites on Sand Key

David

purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 4:12 pm

The Clearwater location is exterior corridor which is perfect in Florida. And in an era known as COVID19.

DELee Sep 18, 2020 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by Horace (Post 32685298)
Scottsdale Marriott Old Town

Property's web page still shows the Suites sign:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...691ecbb769.jpg

David

Horace Sep 18, 2020 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by DELee (Post 32685310)
Property's web page still shows the Suites sign:

Google Maps street view (image capture Feb. 2019) also shows "Marriott Suites" on the sign at the porte cochere.

But the current official name on Marriott.com is simply Scottsdale Marriott Old Town: https://www.marriott.com/hotels/hote...iott-old-town/

purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 4:42 pm


Originally Posted by Horace (Post 32685325)
Google Maps street view (image capture Feb. 2019) also shows "Marriott Suites" on the sign at the porte cochere.

But the current official name on Marriott.com is simply Scottsdale Marriott Old Town: https://www.marriott.com/hotels/hote...iott-old-town/

Interesting.

Xeno Sep 18, 2020 6:50 pm

I stayed in the Anaheim Marriott Suites two years ago so I could walk to a conference in a different hotel, but that is my only defense.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by Xeno (Post 32685618)
I stayed in the Anaheim Marriott Suites two years ago so I could walk to a conference in a different hotel, but that is my only defense.

Cool story!

cmd320 Sep 18, 2020 8:00 pm

The Augusta Marriott has a standard hotel connected via ballrooms to an all suite tower. They’re not really separate hotels at this point, though they may have been at one time. I feel like I recall seeing the Marriott Suites branding on the side of the suites tower.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 18, 2020 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by cmd320 (Post 32685758)
The Augusta Marriott has a standard hotel connected via ballrooms to an all suite tower. They’re not really separate hotels at this point, though they may have been at one time. I feel like I recall seeing the Marriott Suites branding on the side of the suites tower.

That’s insane!

cmd320 Sep 19, 2020 9:45 am


Originally Posted by Will Stonehocker (Post 32685766)
That’s insane!

Here's a view of the whole property with the "Marriott Suites" designation still clearly visible on the far tower.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 19, 2020 10:36 am

For what it is, it looks so fly.

HookEm Sep 19, 2020 12:00 pm

IIRC, I stayed in a Marriott Suites many years ago, like maybe 25 years ago, in Las Vegas.

DJ_Iceman Sep 19, 2020 12:48 pm


Originally Posted by HookEm (Post 32686936)
IIRC, I stayed in a Marriott Suites many years ago, like maybe 25 years ago, in Las Vegas.

The Las Vegas Marriott did indeed start life as a Marriott Suites and, of course, the rooms are still the same (all suites) despite the name change.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 19, 2020 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman (Post 32687034)
The Las Vegas Marriott did indeed start life as a Marriott Suites and, of course, the rooms are still the same (all suites) despite the name change.

Interesting.

SPN Lifer Sep 22, 2020 12:28 am


Originally Posted by HookEm (Post 32686936)
IIRC, I stayed in a Marriott Suites many years ago, like maybe 25 years ago, in Las ​​​​​​Vegas.


Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman (Post 32687034)
The Las Vegas Marriott did indeed start life as a Marriott Suites and, of course, the rooms are still the same (all suites) despite the name change.

Some or all of the rooms in the top two floors (15th and 16th) had been converted from suites to regular rooms, as of November 2019.

The south-facing rooms have nice views of the Wynn Golf Course.

GregWTravels Sep 22, 2020 5:32 am


Originally Posted by DJ_Iceman (Post 32687034)
The Las Vegas Marriott did indeed start life as a Marriott Suites and, of course, the rooms are still the same (all suites) despite the name change.

When did it change? I stayed there in 2003, but I have a feeling it was called Marriott Suites back then, but can't 100% recall.

It had a number of stays in Las Vegas in 2003 for a consulting project I was on. Other than this stay at the Marriott, most of the stays were at hotels on the strip as there was always great deals on room rates that I couldn't fiscally pass up. It was strange staying at the Marriott, as there wasn't any casino to pass through on the way to the parking lot like all the hotels on the strip.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 22, 2020 6:28 am


Originally Posted by GregWTravels (Post 32692446)
When did it change? I stayed there in 2003, but I have a feeling it was called Marriott Suites back then, but can't 100% recall.

It had a number of stays in Las Vegas in 2003 for a consulting project I was on. Other than this stay at the Marriott, most of the stays were at hotels on the strip as there was always great deals on room rates that I couldn't fiscally pass up. It was strange staying at the Marriott, as there wasn't any casino to pass through on the way to the parking lot like all the hotels on the strip.

I guess the Suites name lost its appeal?

SPN Lifer Sep 22, 2020 11:53 am

Maybe the Marriott Suites name was removed when some of the rooms were converted to non-suites. I have no idea what year this was.

This history explains why there is no lounge at the Las Vegas Marriott. Last year (my most recent stay) breakfast was available to Platinum Elites in the restaurant.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 22, 2020 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32693312)
Maybe the Marriott Suites name was removed when some of the rooms were converted to non-suites. I have no idea what year this was.

This history explains why there is no lounge at the Las Vegas Marriott. Last year (my most recent stay) breakfast was available to Platinum Elites in the restaurant.

What kind of high-end hotel has no lounge?

cmd320 Sep 22, 2020 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by Will Stonehocker (Post 32693452)
What kind of high-end hotel has no lounge?

There are quite a few resort properties that lack lounges.

purplenightskylovertv Sep 22, 2020 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by cmd320 (Post 32693460)
There are quite a few resort properties that lack lounges.

You’re not wrong about that.

SPN Lifer Sep 22, 2020 2:04 pm

Do any of the few Marriott Suites properties have a lounge?

purplenightskylovertv Sep 22, 2020 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32693644)
Do any of the few Marriott Suites properties have a lounge?

Not sure.

MSPeconomist Sep 22, 2020 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by Will Stonehocker (Post 32693452)
What kind of high-end hotel has no lounge?

Most true luxury hotels.

nachosdelux Sep 22, 2020 3:42 pm

I regularly stay at Scottsdale and Las Vegas (both former Suites hotels) and neither of them have a lounge. That said, they are 2 of my favorite Marriott properties (location, great staff)

sdsearch Sep 22, 2020 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32693644)
Do any of the few Marriott Suites properties have a lounge?

Anaheim Marriott Suites doesn't. It gives Platinum/Titanium members breakfast from the buffet in the restaurant (in non-Covid times, that is :eek:). Currently it only lists a Starbucks for breakfast, and Platinum/Titanium members only get points in place of the breakfast, per the hotel's current Covid benefits changes information page.

DELee Sep 22, 2020 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32693644)
Do any of the few Marriott Suites properties have a lounge?

Echoing the comment from sdsearch, the Washington Dulles and Bethesda properties also do not have lounges and offer(ed) breakfast from the buffet for Platinums/Titaniums.

When having stayed in past times (i.e. pre-CV-19), I thought highly of the Washington Dulles property and its condition. Wasn't necessarily thrilled with Bethesda - which is ironic given its proximity to Marriott's WHQ.

David

wm47 Sep 23, 2020 7:26 am


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 32693644)
Do any of the few Marriott Suites properties have a lounge?

The Dallas Market Center Marriott Suites has a first floor M Lounge, if I recall correctly. I took it to have been added some time after the hotel first opened.

pinniped Sep 23, 2020 9:04 am

I stayed at the Deerfield Marriott Suites about 2 years ago. Definitely has a very bland 1990s suburban office park vibe to it.

Although it was midsummer, the hotel was mostly empty when we were there. No quality issues...room rate was like 90 bucks for a nice suite...but the property had no soul to it at all. It is a couple miles away from the area with shops and restaurants that you'd think of as "downtown Deerfield". You need a car to get anywhere from this property.

I suppose it's worth a look if you're stuck at ORD for a night and the big hotels right around ORD are sold out. It's approximately the same ride to/from the terminals as a Schaumburg hotel would be. (15-20 minutes)

purplenightskylovertv Sep 29, 2020 8:48 am


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 32695174)
I stayed at the Deerfield Marriott Suites about 2 years ago. Definitely has a very bland 1990s suburban office park vibe to it.

Although it was midsummer, the hotel was mostly empty when we were there. No quality issues...room rate was like 90 bucks for a nice suite...but the property had no soul to it at all. It is a couple miles away from the area with shops and restaurants that you'd think of as "downtown Deerfield". You need a car to get anywhere from this property.

I suppose it's worth a look if you're stuck at ORD for a night and the big hotels right around ORD are sold out. It's approximately the same ride to/from the terminals as a Schaumburg hotel would be. (15-20 minutes)

My parents stayed at that hotel when it was new.

Oxon Flyer Sep 29, 2020 11:38 am


Originally Posted by Will Stonehocker (Post 32693452)
What kind of high-end hotel has no lounge?

In Marriott language, the brands that have lounges are clustered around the “Premium” (high-ish end) segment of the market. There’s a whole “Luxury” segment upstairs, which is far too refined to have such a thing.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...3b85ef619f.png

pinniped Sep 29, 2020 11:46 am

Feels like they should have StR and Ritz on their own tier. Kind of does a bit of a disservice to those brands to throw them on the same level with W and JW.

W's are usually very nice - often with more liveliness to them than competing brands - but they aren't in the realm as a top St. Regis. JW's are often just slightly upscale versions of a Marriott. I used to stay at the one in DC often for work - it was maybe my 3rd or 4th choice from among Marriotts in the area, but we had a corp rate there.

My LC stays in the Starwood years were awesome and included some of the best Plat upgrades I ever received in that program but again, they didn't meet the same luxury specs that a St. Regis did.

But I guess I'm digressing from the full-service suites topic a bit... Oh well.

cmd320 Sep 29, 2020 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 32709137)
Feels like they should have StR and Ritz on their own tier. Kind of does a bit of a disservice to those brands to throw them on the same level with W and JW.

W's are usually very nice - often with more liveliness to them than competing brands - but they aren't in the realm as a top St. Regis. JW's are often just slightly upscale versions of a Marriott. I used to stay at the one in DC often for work - it was maybe my 3rd or 4th choice from among Marriotts in the area, but we had a corp rate there.

My LC stays in the Starwood years were awesome and included some of the best Plat upgrades I ever received in that program but again, they didn't meet the same luxury specs that a St. Regis did.

But I guess I'm digressing from the full-service suites topic a bit... Oh well.

I have never agreed with the way things are ordered in that chart. In terms of actual experience at the properties, I would rank them more like:

Luxury
-RC
-St. Regis
-EDITION
-Luxury Collection (some, but not all)

Premium
-W
-JW

Full-Service
-Marriott
-Vacation Club
-Le Meridien
-Westin
-Autograph Collection
-Renaissance
-Gaylord
-Design Hotels
-Tribute Portfolio
-Sheraton
-Delta

High-End Select
-AC

Standard Select
-Courtyard
-Four Points
-SpringHill
-Protea
-Aloft
-Moxy
-Element

Basic Select
-Fairfield
-TownePlace

I think there's room to further break down within categories like "full-service" or "standard select" for example I wouldn't really rate the Sheraton brand at the same level as I would rate Le Meridien, Westin, Marriott, Autograph Collection, or Renaissance. But at the same time calling Sheraton 'premium' is pretty laughable, sort of like calling JW 'luxury'.

sdsearch Sep 29, 2020 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by cmd320 (Post 32709396)
I have never agreed with the way things are ordered in that chart. In terms of actual experience at the properties, I would rank them more like:

Luxury
-RC
-St. Regis
-EDITION
-Luxury Collection (some, but not all)

Premium
-W
-JW

Full-Service
-Marriott
-Vacation Club
-Le Meridien
-Westin
-Autograph Collection
-Renaissance
-Gaylord
-Design Hotels
-Tribute Portfolio
-Sheraton
-Delta

High-End Select
-AC

Standard Select
-Courtyard
-Four Points
-SpringHill
-Protea
-Aloft
-Moxy
-Element

Basic Select
-Fairfield
-TownePlace

I think there's room to further break down within categories like "full-service" or "standard select" for example I wouldn't really rate the Sheraton brand at the same level as I would rate Le Meridien, Westin, Marriott, Autograph Collection, or Renaissance. But at the same time calling Sheraton 'premium' is pretty laughable, sort of like calling JW 'luxury'.

Not all of these brands fall neatly into categories. Protea is just a regional brand that Marriott bought; it ranges from what you call Basic Select at some properties to what you call Full Service at other properties, with everything in between too (at yet other properties). On a Southern Africa visit shortly after they joined, I stayed at a business hotel high-rise Protea as well at small no-elevator motel-style Proteas.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's also the case in some of those Portfolio/Collection type brands. I know it is in other programs, where those kinds of brands range even more widely than Protea does between categories. But I'm not familiar enough with the Marriott Portfolio/Collection type brands to know if they range widely or not.

cmd320 Sep 29, 2020 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by sdsearch (Post 32710718)
Not all of these brands fall neatly into categories. Protea is just a regional brand that Marriott bought; it ranges from what you call Basic Select at some properties to what you call Full Service at other properties, with everything in between too (at yet other properties). On a Southern Africa visit shortly after they joined, I stayed at a business hotel high-rise Protea as well at small no-elevator motel-style Proteas.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's also the case in some of those Portfolio/Collection type brands. I know it is in other programs, where those kinds of brands range even more widely than Protea does between categories. But I'm not familiar enough with the Marriott Portfolio/Collection type brands to know if they range widely or not.

Agreed. I honestly couldn’t tell you a thing about Protea. And Design Hotels/Tribute Portfolio I don’t really know either.


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