Special rates for local residents
#16
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I have two residences and use resident rates often. Specifically, the Fairmont YVR has a BC Residents rate and in Hawaii, I use kama'aina rates all the time. Nothing discriminatory about it.
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Local rates are normal in the tourism industry. It's not a surprise you often need to offer people from the area a little extra to stay. In any case, piece of advice for Dubai: Don't ever try to "call someone out" on your perspective of law when in the Emirates. It won't end well, at all.
#19
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Yeah, this is common. Marriott often has a 10% off for CA residents on CA hotels.
This is for anyone who lives in the UAE, which doesn't require you be a citizen. If it was whites or arabs only or something, you might have a case.
This is for anyone who lives in the UAE, which doesn't require you be a citizen. If it was whites or arabs only or something, you might have a case.
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UAE law does require proof of identity at check in, which must be an Emirates ID or a passport. But, again, that’s not dissimilar to requirements elsewhere in the world. So you can book this rate, present a passport at check in, and hope for the best. But no one’s going to jail or being whisked away.
#21
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Yes, ths is "discrimination" by definition. But it's lawful and common in the UAE and elsewhere.
#22
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If you really want to see something like this in practice, go visit Thailand with a local, where just about everything has a locals price that is substantially less than what a "Farang" (foreigner) would pay.
Or go to a casino and watch how some players get comp'd suites, endless food, and beverages, whilst other players don't get squat. That's how it works.
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what irks me even more is that there is another rate at the same hotel which is 200AED more and states:
UAE and GCC Residents getaway, includes buffet breakfast daily at Sloanes, per stay, wired high-speed Internet, wireless Internet, 60 min spa treatment per night at Balinese or Swedish, UAE Resident ID valid ID required, see Rate details
Really seems like the one I booked is misleading... they could have easily put UAE and GCC Summerlicious 2019 - and clearly said that you need ID right in the title...
the hotel lets you cancel until 6pm the day of check-in so I am going to book one room with Summerlicious and one room at regular rate and will see what happesn.
UAE and GCC Residents getaway, includes buffet breakfast daily at Sloanes, per stay, wired high-speed Internet, wireless Internet, 60 min spa treatment per night at Balinese or Swedish, UAE Resident ID valid ID required, see Rate details
Really seems like the one I booked is misleading... they could have easily put UAE and GCC Summerlicious 2019 - and clearly said that you need ID right in the title...
the hotel lets you cancel until 6pm the day of check-in so I am going to book one room with Summerlicious and one room at regular rate and will see what happesn.
Last edited by Keyser; Aug 20, 2019 at 4:57 am
#24
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I can remember 25 years ago the Victoria Falls Hotel in Zimbabwe has a locals rate and a tourist rate so certainly not a concept recently invented.
#25
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Don't forget that staycations are an essential revenue generator for hotels in the UAE - e.g. lots of expats live in villas without a pool or direct sea access (only the one with the biggest income will stay on the Palm) so they spend a weekend on a lower rate in a hotel and enjoy beach, pool, etc.
EK has agreed for its cabin crew several discounts at various hotels so FA's can use pools, spas, etc. when having a day off.
My corporate rate gives me also access to the Ritz Carltons in JBR or Abu Dhabi for AED550 a night mostly all the year.
I don't think that's discrimination (you would also get it if you live there) so I reserve that word for anything linked to racial discrimination e.g. not serving black people in a restaurant or anything similar bad.
EK has agreed for its cabin crew several discounts at various hotels so FA's can use pools, spas, etc. when having a day off.
My corporate rate gives me also access to the Ritz Carltons in JBR or Abu Dhabi for AED550 a night mostly all the year.
I don't think that's discrimination (you would also get it if you live there) so I reserve that word for anything linked to racial discrimination e.g. not serving black people in a restaurant or anything similar bad.
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Lots of “discrimination” going on at tourist attractions too where locals often get rates at less than half price. I guess OP doesn’t travel much.
#28
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Yes, this is common in travel industry. Residency based "discrimination" for hotel rates, flights, admission tickets or even restaurant meals. Nothing new to see here. This is call market segmentation in marketing.
This would have been a real discrimination it rates were based on race. For example a discount for whiles only.
This would have been a real discrimination it rates were based on race. For example a discount for whiles only.
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Yes, this is common in travel industry. Residency based "discrimination" for hotel rates, flights, admission tickets or even restaurant meals. Nothing new to see here. This is call market segmentation in marketing.
This would have been a real discrimination it rates were based on race. For example a discount for whiles only.
This would have been a real discrimination it rates were based on race. For example a discount for whiles only.
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It is discriminatory, but it is a sort of discrimination which is not illegal in those jurisdictions.