‘Conference’ password for my car
#76
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You have an iPhone, right? Do it on your iPhone.
How do you connect to the camera now? If it's via an app, and you don't have to be on the same wifi network, it's probably connecting through an intermediate server. My guess anyway. And if that's true, then it might work.
If you have to be on same wifi network to connect to it, then yeah, the isolation thing probably comes into play.
-David
How do you connect to the camera now? If it's via an app, and you don't have to be on the same wifi network, it's probably connecting through an intermediate server. My guess anyway. And if that's true, then it might work.
If you have to be on same wifi network to connect to it, then yeah, the isolation thing probably comes into play.
-David
In order to change settings on the BV, download videos direct to my iPhone, I must use the BV Wifi with the BV app (shown up thread). However, obviously when my iPad or iPhone is on the same Wifi as my BV then I can see live views through the cameras.
Just to make certain we are on the same page, you are saying substitute iPhone for iPad with the instructions given upthread by @nobodyherebutme , right?
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Yes, you have to follow the instructions in post #59 , replace iPad with your iPhone.
You will be enabling the wifi hotspot on your iPhone, then have the BV webcam connect to your iphone's hotspot. Then run the network analyzer app on your iPhone in order to capture and display the mac address of the camera. That's the sole purpose of doing that.
Then you can turn off the hotspot on your phone. Call the support people, give them the mac address you found and then connect the BV camera to the hotel's guest network.
and so on ... as in post #59 .
For anything that requires them to be on the same wifi network, that might be blocked by that protocol.
Once you get the BV camera connected to the guest network, try the BV camera app on your iOS device. See what you can do.
-David
You will be enabling the wifi hotspot on your iPhone, then have the BV webcam connect to your iphone's hotspot. Then run the network analyzer app on your iPhone in order to capture and display the mac address of the camera. That's the sole purpose of doing that.
Then you can turn off the hotspot on your phone. Call the support people, give them the mac address you found and then connect the BV camera to the hotel's guest network.
and so on ... as in post #59 .
For anything that requires them to be on the same wifi network, that might be blocked by that protocol.
Once you get the BV camera connected to the guest network, try the BV camera app on your iOS device. See what you can do.
-David
#78
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I suspect it may be something that an IT person could do (if any were working at the hotel). It may be similar to my trying to connect a chromecast device - that device cannot "sign in" but the IT person can add the MAC address into their system and then I can use it as if I had signed in. Maybe not since your device can login but just a thought.
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Yes, you have to follow the instructions in post #59 , replace iPad with your iPhone.
You will be enabling the wifi hotspot on your iPhone, then have the BV webcam connect to your iphone's hotspot. Then run the network analyzer app on your iPhone in order to capture and display the mac address of the camera. That's the sole purpose of doing that.
Then you can turn off the hotspot on your phone. Call the support people, give them the mac address you found and then connect the BV camera to the hotel's guest network.
and so on ... as in post #59 .
For anything that requires them to be on the same wifi network, that might be blocked by that protocol.
Once you get the BV camera connected to the guest network, try the BV camera app on your iOS device. See what you can do.
-David
You will be enabling the wifi hotspot on your iPhone, then have the BV webcam connect to your iphone's hotspot. Then run the network analyzer app on your iPhone in order to capture and display the mac address of the camera. That's the sole purpose of doing that.
Then you can turn off the hotspot on your phone. Call the support people, give them the mac address you found and then connect the BV camera to the hotel's guest network.
and so on ... as in post #59 .
For anything that requires them to be on the same wifi network, that might be blocked by that protocol.
Once you get the BV camera connected to the guest network, try the BV camera app on your iOS device. See what you can do.
-David
When I am doing this in the car, I have my iPhone hotspot on and I connect to the BV Wifi to open the app and search for available networks. It shows various networks, but not my iPhone hotspot.
I tried these instructions at having using my home router rather my iPhone hotspot but when I pull up Net Anaylzer it does not show the BV dashcam.
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If you think about it, when you go to a coffee shop or similar, they give everyone the same password, and everyone has to use it. You don't need to do that to connect your laptop at a hotel, because they use a different kind of security. Sadly your camera doesn't support that kind of security.
As for the MAC address, here is some information on how to find that for your camera:
https://helpcenter.blackvue.com/hc/e...Cloud-service-
I've never used a BlackVue, but it looks like when you connect to it to configure it for a new network, you connect to a network like "DR650GW-F04CDD" (where DR650GW is the model of the camera).
According to this thread, the MAC address is 00:25:42 + the last six digits of that configuration network. So for the example cam above, it would be 00:25:42:F0:4C: DD .
If you call the hotel tech support and give them the MAC address for your camera, they should be able to put it on the network. You would then be able to join the network from the camera with no password.
#81
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I'm going to skip some of the technical detail, but the hotel is not going to be able to give you the kind of password you need for your device. Your dash cam only works with a network-level password; if the network is protected with that kind of password, every other guest in the hotel would have to use it for every other connected device. This is a technical limitation, not a policy thing.
If you think about it, when you go to a coffee shop or similar, they give everyone the same password, and everyone has to use it. You don't need to do that to connect your laptop at a hotel, because they use a different kind of security. Sadly your camera doesn't support that kind of security.
As for the MAC address, here is some information on how to find that for your camera:
https://helpcenter.blackvue.com/hc/e...Cloud-service-
I've never used a BlackVue, but it looks like when you connect to it to configure it for a new network, you connect to a network like "DR650GW-F04CDD" (where DR650GW is the model of the camera).
According to this thread, the MAC address is 00:25:42 + the last six digits of that configuration network. So for the example cam above, it would be 00:25:42:F0:4C: DD .
If you call the hotel tech support and give them the MAC address for your camera, they should be able to put it on the network. You would then be able to join the network from the camera with no password.
If you think about it, when you go to a coffee shop or similar, they give everyone the same password, and everyone has to use it. You don't need to do that to connect your laptop at a hotel, because they use a different kind of security. Sadly your camera doesn't support that kind of security.
As for the MAC address, here is some information on how to find that for your camera:
https://helpcenter.blackvue.com/hc/e...Cloud-service-
I've never used a BlackVue, but it looks like when you connect to it to configure it for a new network, you connect to a network like "DR650GW-F04CDD" (where DR650GW is the model of the camera).
According to this thread, the MAC address is 00:25:42 + the last six digits of that configuration network. So for the example cam above, it would be 00:25:42:F0:4C: DD .
If you call the hotel tech support and give them the MAC address for your camera, they should be able to put it on the network. You would then be able to join the network from the camera with no password.
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Perhaps this is it outside the letter of the T&C, but is hardly an abuse.
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I'm w/ dayone on this one.
More importantly, I'm assuming the OP has insurance. From what I've read/interpreted, he & spouse are worried about the car being carjacked. Unless his connecting to wifi gives him an instant alert while they're asleep, I'm confused on how this is going to help. Maybe I'm missing something? And if he's got a wonderful car, then he presumably has wonderful insurance.
Re: the public area. A parking garage is not generally included in the lobby or smoking area in terms of wifi access, and often due to cement can't pick up on hotel wifi. Frequently the parking garage isn't even run by Marriott, so free wifi wouldn't apply either.
Cheers.
More importantly, I'm assuming the OP has insurance. From what I've read/interpreted, he & spouse are worried about the car being carjacked. Unless his connecting to wifi gives him an instant alert while they're asleep, I'm confused on how this is going to help. Maybe I'm missing something? And if he's got a wonderful car, then he presumably has wonderful insurance.
Re: the public area. A parking garage is not generally included in the lobby or smoking area in terms of wifi access, and often due to cement can't pick up on hotel wifi. Frequently the parking garage isn't even run by Marriott, so free wifi wouldn't apply either.
Cheers.
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But if there is a wi-fi signal from the hotel that reaches the parking garage (be it the lobby or conference connection), which seems to be the OP's case, then it seems reasonable to me that the hotel would give him access to this wi-fi signal. We are not talking about a dedicated parking garage wi-fi connection run by the outsourced garage manager.
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But if there is a wi-fi signal from the hotel that reaches the parking garage (be it the lobby or conference connection), which seems to be the OP's case, then it seems reasonable to me that the hotel would give him access to this wi-fi signal. We are not talking about a dedicated parking garage wi-fi connection run by the outsourced garage manager.
I am a registered guest. My dash cam (BlackVue) can see both Guest and Conference WiFi’s
#86
 
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I'm w/ dayone on this one.
More importantly, I'm assuming the OP has insurance. From what I've read/interpreted, he & spouse are worried about the car being carjacked. Unless his connecting to wifi gives him an instant alert while they're asleep, I'm confused on how this is going to help. Maybe I'm missing something? And if he's got a wonderful car, then he presumably has wonderful insurance.
Re: the public area. A parking garage is not generally included in the lobby or smoking area in terms of wifi access, and often due to cement can't pick up on hotel wifi. Frequently the parking garage isn't even run by Marriott, so free wifi wouldn't apply either.
Cheers.
More importantly, I'm assuming the OP has insurance. From what I've read/interpreted, he & spouse are worried about the car being carjacked. Unless his connecting to wifi gives him an instant alert while they're asleep, I'm confused on how this is going to help. Maybe I'm missing something? And if he's got a wonderful car, then he presumably has wonderful insurance.
Re: the public area. A parking garage is not generally included in the lobby or smoking area in terms of wifi access, and often due to cement can't pick up on hotel wifi. Frequently the parking garage isn't even run by Marriott, so free wifi wouldn't apply either.
Cheers.
Yet, so many people feel the need to judge the person for what they want to do with a resource they are entitled to use. (Not the 'conference' wifi, the 'guest' wifi)
I'm sure everybody else uses the hotel wifi strictly for business purposes, right?
-David
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Therein lies the problem. It doesn't matter where you log in at the property, hotels (and most other public WiFi access points) use captive portals where you must enter or acknowledge an agreement using a web browser. There are two ways to handle this. 1) Get a travel router. There's some <$20 ones which work well enough. Connect up the dash cam to your travel router, as well as your phone/tablet/laptop, then connect to the hotel's WiFi through the router. Once you've logged in on there, all of your devices will have access to WiFi without sign-on screens. 2) Call the tech support for the hotel you're staying at. Have the MAC address of the dash cam, and they can add it for you.
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Therein lies the problem. It doesn't matter where you log in at the property, hotels (and most other public WiFi access points) use captive portals where you must enter or acknowledge an agreement using a web browser. There are two ways to handle this. 1) Get a travel router. There's some <$20 ones which work well enough. Connect up the dash cam to your travel router, as well as your phone/tablet/laptop, then connect to the hotel's WiFi through the router. Once you've logged in on there, all of your devices will have access to WiFi without sign-on screens. 2) Call the tech support for the hotel you're staying at. Have the MAC address of the dash cam, and they can add it for you.