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RedSun Jul 30, 2019 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Jon Maiman (Post 31360971)
They are all easily obtained via the MP Credit Card if desired. In the past the biggest benefit for me was access to Economy Plus at the time of booking. With the devaluation of UA Premier Silver status benefits, now it is only at check-in time. Huge loss of value in my mind. Anyway, we're starting to get off topic for this thread delving into the nuances of UA Premier Silver status.

--Jon


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 31361226)
If you are an American resident, yes.

Still puzzled by the personal side of view and/or the "if". Free benefit is always good and gets value, even if the value is low to some people. You can get the credit card, but there is cost of annual fee. This benefit may be worth $20 or $100 to some people. But it is still value.

EuropeanPete Jul 30, 2019 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by RedSun (Post 31361446)
Still puzzled by the personal side of view and/or the "if". Free benefit is always good and gets value, even if the value is low to some people. You can get the credit card, but there is cost of annual fee. This benefit may be worth $20 or $100 to some people. But it is still value.

I think we are speaking at cross purposes here. Non-American residents are (generally) not able to get US credit cards.

sbrower Jul 30, 2019 10:44 pm


Originally Posted by Jon Maiman (Post 31360971)
They are all easily obtained via the MP Credit Card if desired. In the past the biggest benefit for me was access to Economy Plus at the time of booking. With the devaluation of UA Premier Silver status benefits, now it is only at check-in time. Huge loss of value in my mind. Anyway, we're starting to get off topic for this thread delving into the nuances of UA Premier Silver status.

--Jon

Last week flew LAX-FCA (3 hour flight), round trip, and both my wife and I got upgraded to first class in both directions. I was happy about my Titanium status.

Kara5930 Jul 30, 2019 11:11 pm

My stay is mainly in Europe. As a Gold Elite I had more upgrades including suites. I was Platinum Premier / Titanium for about a year and haven't been upgraded to suites except with using SNA.

RedSun Jul 30, 2019 11:41 pm


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 31361464)

I think we are speaking at cross purposes here. Non-American residents are (generally) not able to get US credit cards.

I know this. Not referring to this.

RedSun Jul 30, 2019 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by sbrower (Post 31361468)
Last week flew LAX-FCA (3 hour flight), round trip, and both my wife and I got upgraded to first class in both directions. I was happy about my Titanium status.

Yes, and you do not need MP credit card for it.

porciuscato Jul 31, 2019 12:53 am


Originally Posted by CCIE_Flyer (Post 31359766)
Anecdotally, as I was recently checking into a resort property and being given a nice Ambassador upgrade (in spite of my SNAs having been declined), the gentleman next to me was being told something to the effect of "I'm sure as a Titanium you're used to a water view, but we simply don't have any water view rooms available for your stay this time." Now mind you, this property had a TON of water-facing rooms. Couldn't help but think to myself "so this is what's in store for me next year."

As an ambassador, I've been consistently getting upgrades this years -- like 4 out of 5 times. Definitely a difference from years past. When this year's Ambassador inflation falls off, maybe some of that will spill over to titaniums. BTW folks, can we please do away with the "t*t" abbreviation? I'm hardly the PC sort, but it feels crass and misogynistic to me.

nequine Jul 31, 2019 12:57 am

I'm with the thread starter here. I've been gold/platinum for 11 years and made titanium this year and other than the 75% points bonus (and one upgrade which was very nice at Trump Turnberry) I can't say I have noticed any difference at all as to how I am treated in the hotels I frequent here in the UK. I don't usually do late check outs so the 4pm availability isn't of any value to me. Okay, I get United Silver... but again I live in the UK so that is (for me) a waste of time.

Most of the downservice has been from changing to gold to platinum (and titanium) where the previous welcome gifts you got (free drink vouchers/welcome plate of fruit/sweets/cakes) have gone and instead replaced by the bulk standard 500/1000 points or $10 credit which barely buys you a drink at most Marriott hotels!

fdem Jul 31, 2019 1:47 am

I was not happy to not receive top tier lifetime status when the merge took place. my previous life with Spg having been at 700 nights and with a large spend but rules are rules. Could have tried to get to 750 but just to travel for the sake of it did not make sense ( carbon footprint personal spend etc). I now find myself in the good situation of having pretty much 100 percent upgrades, however I mainly travel in se Asia and Europe so cannot complain. I have previously posted that my stays are 100 percent cash spend so I do believe that there is an underlying culture at Bonvoy and previously sag to give preference to cash spend, or maybe I am just lucky

X-ON Jul 31, 2019 2:15 am


Originally Posted by fdem (Post 31361845)
I was not happy to not receive top tier lifetime status when the merge took place. my previous life with Spg having been at 700 nights and with a large spend but rules are rules. Could have tried to get to 750 but just to travel for the sake of it did not make sense ( carbon footprint personal spend etc). I now find myself in the good situation of having pretty much 100 percent upgrades, however I mainly travel in se Asia and Europe so cannot complain. I have previously posted that my stays are 100 percent cash spend so I do believe that there is an underlying culture at Bonvoy and previously sag to give preference to cash spend, or maybe I am just lucky

I am in similar situation, it turned out MB did not count the year I achieved during 2018 after merged accounts, anyway after this year I will be a LTP with 1K+ nights go figure. Currently Titanium, the only difference I have noticed is the reduction of benefits compared to SPG Platinum .... Getting the same benefits as Titanium at many hotels as I used to get as MR Gold ....My bet is that benefits will deteriorate until the next economic downturn .... and the difference between MB PLT and MB TIT will converge to a small epsilon ....

craigthemif Jul 31, 2019 2:28 am


Originally Posted by Jon Maiman (Post 31358621)
UA Premier Silver status has very minimal value. It was much better when Plat Premieres got UA Premier Gold status which was meaningful.

--Jon


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 31358874)
A free bag, priority check-in and priority boarding are not to be sniffed at.

It is fairly difficult to reach 50-75 hotel nights in a year, but not pick up some kind of status from an airline, unless you really aren't trying at all...

tarheelnj Jul 31, 2019 5:54 am

If you book close-to-last minute at sold out hotels, being Titanium could be useful, although they could technically charge you rack rate.

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craigthemif Jul 31, 2019 7:31 am


Originally Posted by tarheelnj (Post 31362353)
If you book close-to-last minute at sold out hotels, being Titanium could be useful, although they could technically charge you rack rate.

Not only can they charge you rack rate, but the hotel can opt-out for conferences, sporting events, etc. Essentially the most likely reasons why you'd want to force your way into a specific hotel...

EuropeanPete Jul 31, 2019 7:33 am


Originally Posted by craigthemif (Post 31361920)
It is fairly difficult to reach 50-75 hotel nights in a year, but not pick up some kind of status from an airline, unless you really aren't trying at all...

It all depends really, doesn't it? I stay 250+ hotel nights per year so that's not especially challenging for me, but in terms of flights most of mine are with OneWorld (I'm Emerald), LCC's or local non-alliance airlines. Other than doing lots of flying for status only, there would really be no other way for me to get United Silver. Of course, I'd have preferred United Gold.

craigthemif Jul 31, 2019 7:41 am


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 31362713)
It all depends really, doesn't it? I stay 250+ hotel nights per year so that's not especially challenging for me, but in terms of flights most of mine are with OneWorld (I'm Emerald), LCC's or local non-alliance airlines. Other than doing lots of flying for status only, there would really be no other way for me to get United Silver. Of course, I'd have preferred United Gold.

Because of your stated travel habits, you (as do I FWIW) would therefore fly OW or LCCs as much as feasible. Making UA Silver useful in what... 1 flight out of 20? 50?

I'm not complaining about being given a back-up plan to the back-up plan, but I struggle to see how UA Silver ends up being the best airline elite status that a 75+ night Tit can manage...


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