Next Bonvoy global promotion after 4 June 2019 ?
Apr 18, 2019, 6:10 pm
#46
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You're missing my point: You said that MR sells points to anyone WITH money. My response is that it's generally people WITH LESS MONEY who are the ones buying points, not the ones with more money. Relatively poor people buy points, while rich people don't need to do so and probably won't bother.
Apr 18, 2019, 6:15 pm
#47
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there are different ways of looking at value and worth, but typically it's how much someone is willing to pay for something.
this can be affected by the means with which they do this - currency, points, etc.
however, not everyone sees value in the same way, and not everyone's circumstances are the same.
what you've written seems to imply that value cannot be defined in terms of convenience, preference, and that variance in approach does not exist amongst customers.
hotels would typically have higher prices that increases nearer the date of stay.
as a loyal customer, i would be incentivised to stay by the convenience of booking points nearer the time as the points price of the stay may be less than the cash price. if i couldn't find value in the points price, then maybe my loyalty is not worth that much and i would just stay somewhere else.. similarly, if i was staying for business, the price wouldn't matter so much. in each case, the hotel would benefit by having a good price points deal and high rack rate.
this can be affected by the means with which they do this - currency, points, etc.
however, not everyone sees value in the same way, and not everyone's circumstances are the same.
what you've written seems to imply that value cannot be defined in terms of convenience, preference, and that variance in approach does not exist amongst customers.
hotels would typically have higher prices that increases nearer the date of stay.
as a loyal customer, i would be incentivised to stay by the convenience of booking points nearer the time as the points price of the stay may be less than the cash price. if i couldn't find value in the points price, then maybe my loyalty is not worth that much and i would just stay somewhere else.. similarly, if i was staying for business, the price wouldn't matter so much. in each case, the hotel would benefit by having a good price points deal and high rack rate.
From what you described, you are not looking for quality? Your choice is based on whether you can get a bargain. With more people buying more points cheaply, you are guaranteed to find less availability, so you move your loyalty away because points can be bought cheaply. Isn’t that what I said?
Also if you want to buy large amount of points with money, there isn’t much loyalty to speak of, right? Or you simply bought points, because they look good, no intention of using them?
Apr 18, 2019, 9:17 pm
#48
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Alright folks we’ve gotten too off topic...
I speculate that the next promo will be that you have to post when you got screwed by someone or something and use the hashtag #Bonvoyed to get 500 points after your second post during the promo period.
Oh oh and the catch is that the points will never post.
I speculate that the next promo will be that you have to post when you got screwed by someone or something and use the hashtag #Bonvoyed to get 500 points after your second post during the promo period.
Oh oh and the catch is that the points will never post.
Apr 20, 2019, 1:04 pm
#49
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Apr 20, 2019, 1:44 pm
#50
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I actually have seen the next promo, after you book you spin the wheel and get the prize you land on or a free spin, you must take the prize no exceptions and all hotels are participating here it is:
Apr 20, 2019, 7:45 pm
#51
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Apr 21, 2019, 7:13 am
#52
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The chronic whiners and malcontents that knock the Bonvoy Rewards program at every turn would rush to their computer keyboards to criticize the size of the lobster, the vintage of the champagne, or the number of layers in the cake....... then after all of the huffing and puffing, threaten to leave the program - which they never do.
It's become all too predictable and comical....
Newman
Apr 21, 2019, 7:17 am
#53
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I agree with a lot of what you say, except that this time a non-negligible number of FTers have pulled the trigger and have not had a paid stay at Marriott properties for many months. So it has not just been talk this time around, there have been actions taken.
Apr 21, 2019, 9:01 am
#54
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Apr 21, 2019, 9:16 am
#55
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Bonvoy have 120 million members .....
Assuming (very random assumption) that only 10% of these numbers are active members .... the number still clocked 12 millions members
If there are 120 thousand members say Bonvoyed to Bonvoy, that only 1% of assumed active members .
Would be interesting to know the actual structure of Bonvoy
How many members - active members - silver - gold - platinums - titaniums - ambassadors out there
Assuming (very random assumption) that only 10% of these numbers are active members .... the number still clocked 12 millions members
If there are 120 thousand members say Bonvoyed to Bonvoy, that only 1% of assumed active members .
Would be interesting to know the actual structure of Bonvoy
How many members - active members - silver - gold - platinums - titaniums - ambassadors out there
Apr 21, 2019, 9:58 am
#56
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Apr 22, 2019, 7:23 am
#57
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I am thinking either Marriott will extend the present promotion.
Or
Introduce something more in-line with the summer travel. Possibly stay based instead of night based.
Apr 22, 2019, 8:35 am
#58
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My guess :
Global promotions will be something related to points ...... triple points on select locations ... or n times point after n stays
Global promotions will be something related to points ...... triple points on select locations ... or n times point after n stays
Apr 22, 2019, 6:21 pm
#59
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That's unthinkable (for them). That way they'd be giving you double points for your first stay in the extended period.
Obviously, what they'd rather do is stop this promo and start a new identical promo, so that they can have yet another "first" stay on which you don't get double points.
But I hope Marriott doesn't do what US Bank gave me for a promo on my Biz Radisson card: It was spend $5000, then only after that, get double the normal points for some limited time. I'd hate to see Marriott go from no double points on the first stay, to no double point until starting with your 15th night during the promo period, or something like that. Ie, the most feeble promo earnings with the most serious promo restrictions on earning.
Obviously, what they'd rather do is stop this promo and start a new identical promo, so that they can have yet another "first" stay on which you don't get double points.
But I hope Marriott doesn't do what US Bank gave me for a promo on my Biz Radisson card: It was spend $5000, then only after that, get double the normal points for some limited time. I'd hate to see Marriott go from no double points on the first stay, to no double point until starting with your 15th night during the promo period, or something like that. Ie, the most feeble promo earnings with the most serious promo restrictions on earning.
Apr 22, 2019, 10:24 pm
#60
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