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Mixed.
Information Technology: clearly still an issue, with some old MR LTPs not reflecting new LTPP or at a minimum current PP status (not an issue for me, my grandfathered LTPP reflects). Stays are still taking a long time to post. Intermittent website issues in search, displaying reservations, etc. are still very common. Don't have too much to contact marriott about but did over missing stays and they are extremely backlogged on replying. Property treatment: I've only stayed at two properties post-08/18. The JW Marriott Mall of America, front desk and elite benefits were properly acknowledged. Delta Minneapolis Northeast: I did mobile check-in yesterday and they prepared that in an elite little cardboard sleeve/silver elite keycard. They did tell me about their "Elite pantry" (toaster, light snacks, cereal, and water/soda/milk/etc. in fridge) as they do not have a lounge. When I inquired about breakfast benefit they said the elite pantry substituted; when I pointed out the pantry lacked hot food (no eggs, protein [sausage/bacon], oatmeal, etc.) or sitting space, they did provide one traditional style breakfast coupon (for elite + 1 to me). They also did not ask about points, but I'm pretty sure the mobile check-in states that it automatically opts you into the points and to tell the front desk if you want something else. The FDE seemed to express that there was a lot of confusion on the ground benefits-wise post 08/18 program merger and changes. So while I don't have any major complaints, it does seem that hotel staff (at least at some properties) are not used to the benefits changes.
Originally Posted by Johnny Rocket
(Post 30215506)
For me, I cannot understand why the two brands, Rewards and Preferred Guest still exist side by side with near-identical apps and websites.
IT has not yet been completely merged. You can search for SPG brand properties on spg.com/marriott.com (different branding, same site) but when you actually search/select rates for legacy SPG properties, you get redirected to starwoodhotels.com. While the top of the page looks the same (language/help/My Trips/name and account dropdown menu) the rest of the interface is totally different. The IP of starwoodhotels goes to 155.72.90.26, which is an IP range that is now registered to Marriott, but called ITTSHERATON-B (which you can verify here). There could be a variety of reasons to delay the change. It could be technical (like the legacy starwoodhotels.com site I just talked about) where they're waiting to get on a consistent set of domain names (like marriott.com). It could be that the brand consultants just haven't figured out all of the marketing materials and taglines and agreed on a name. There is, of course, a third possibility: That they know the name of the merged loyalty program that they're going to use and that they could re-brand today, but chose not to. Why would they do this? Everyone complaining about the post 08/18 Marriott Rewards issues (IT and property) will be complaining against the names SPG and Marriott Rewards, not whatever the new name is. MR waits for all of the issues to settle down and stabilize, and then announce a new rebranded name that comes without all of the baggage of people complaining of the impending merger or the problems that occurred when the merger did happen. |
Originally Posted by phltraveler
(Post 30217350)
MR waits for all of the issues to settle down and stabilize, and then announce a new rebranded name that comes without all of the baggage of people complaining of the impending merger or the problems that occurred when the merger did happen.
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
(Post 30215995)
I'm going to say that in the last week Marriott has gone from "essentially unusable" to "unreliable and unresponsive" for me. I'm giving Marriott another try with a few stays in the next couple of weeks, so we'll see.
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I've stayed in Marriott hotels at least one night every week for the last 13, usually 3-4 night stays. Chicago, Costa Rica, Denver, Detroit.
Other than some delays in points and stays postings, some lifetime nights self corrections, zero calls or emails. No problems. |
Shockingly, still a mess after a month. - Had 6 stays, 3 posted (legacy SPG), 3 didn’t (2 SPG and 1 Marriott). Posting isn’t intuitive — BRG rewards points now post separate from the stay, making it impossible to figure out what has posted and what hasn’t. - Points from cancelled award reservations still missing. - YTD stay count still inaccurate. - Confirmation emails (booking/cancellation) are sporadic for SPG and never come for Marriott. - Website sometimes unavailable altogether (rare now), shows available hotels sold out, and doesn’t immediately display the lowest rate available. Marriott app doesn’t let me log in at all. - BRG points for approved SPG claims (2K SPG points) post incorrectly as 5K Marriott points. - I haven’t been able to speak to a phone agent yet, because I hang up after 20+ minutes on hold. - Communication dreadful — do they really believe these issues don’t exist just because they don’t admit what’s going on? On the upside, I’m maxing out the 40 night Hyatt promo. And the treatment I received on 2 stays as Hilton Gold has been better than expected. |
Originally Posted by jpdx
(Post 30220550)
And the treatment I received on 2 stays as Hilton Gold has been better than expected. Marriott keeps making it very clear they don't care about my business |
I don't think I've spent more than 90 minutes of my life on the phone with SPG in the last ten years, but I've spent at least double that on the phone with them during the past month. Hold times are ridiculous (20+ minutes for a PPE?). Clearly the case as their IT wasn't ready for prime time.
I have a flex reservation that should take five seconds to cancel that won't cancel online, agents have spent more than an hour trying to cancel before sending it to the hotel, the hotel has apparently cancelled, the cancellation number doesn't link to any reservation, the reservation remains active in my account, and an associated Suite Night Award has not been returned to my account as the reservation appears to still be active. Its a LSPG property, and the reservation was made pre-integration. I'm getting to my wits end on this one. I think it may be problematic as there's an SNA applied to it (that can't be removed by anyone for some reason). SNAs have largely been a mess as I can't modify or cancel them online (outside or within five days), and similarly the call centre can't do the same - although they should be able to. I have a stay on Friday, and five days prior didn't receive an email approving or indicating that the system will keep trying. I have my doubts these will return to my account automatically - if they don't, I'm going to be pushing hard for them to extend the validity, as a key benefit isn't being provided. I also find the dumbed-down Marriott property pages extremely annoying; they lack information, including property email addresses. Fax numbers are available in abundance (in 2018), but email info removed. The search grid also sucks. So all in all, call me pretty unimpressed, and add me to the list of those starting to cast an eye elsewhere. |
Originally Posted by jpdx
(Post 30220550)
- YTD stay count still inaccurate. Or did you mean YTD nights count? |
Mixed....
The Bad: Still have a reservation at a Legacy SPG hotel made pre-August 18 for a stay post-August 18 that shows up in my account but when i click on it, it does not have the room type or rate - just the hotel and dates The Whatever: Account still off by less than 5K points - sent email weeks ago, only got form response giving me a case number, not worth following up over so few points Account still shows $0 YTD spend (in the whatever category because I won't hit Ambassador no matter what my spend is) The Good: YTD Nights and LT Nights are correct LT Status is now correct Had my first stay at a Legacy Marriott property (up until August 18 I only had 25LT nights at Marriott), a Fairfield Inn. Upgraded to the hotel's Executive Suite and offered free bottled water from the pantry and thanked for being Platinum. THE AMAZING: We've still got the SPG Lurkers who are helpful and have individual personalities unlike Marriott Concierge that just drops in, leaves a PR statement and is never heard from again. (For those of you who are Legacy Marriott and may not be familiar with the SPG board, the Lurkers -especially I, II and III are amazing!) |
I'm still missing 610k points and starting to lose hope I'll ever see them again.
Also still waiting for my points since 1st July from SPG Amex to land. Other problems I had such as missing nights etc have been corrected. Lastly I'm still really disappointed Marriott withdrew the lounge access benefit for Platinum members at Luxury Collection properties. |
Only issue that I'm now having is that the Platinum Premier arrival gifts are not always crediting automatically..
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Originally Posted by Wickersley
(Post 30224462)
Only issue that I'm now having is that the Platinum Premier arrival gifts are not always crediting automatically..
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My latest stay posted without any prompting but I got an email refusal for two stays I took in early August in Spain - standard email said that I wasn't entitled to any points despite spending EUR1k+ on accommodation and hotel spend. Tried to ring customer service and gave up - the wait times are getting longer. I rang about a cert a few weeks ago and waited 40 minutes for a connection and the customer service agent didn't acknowledge the wait time.
I combined my accounts but can't see upcoming SPG stays when I log in and also can't decide if I got 3 for 1 on the SPG points transfer because I didn't take note of my points. Great move on my part! |
Originally Posted by ellie_nz
(Post 30224668)
My latest stay posted without any prompting but I got an email refusal for two stays I took in early August in Spain - standard email said that I wasn't entitled to any points despite spending EUR1k+ on accommodation and hotel spend. Tried to ring customer service and gave up - the wait times are getting longer. I rang about a cert a few weeks ago and waited 40 minutes for a connection and the customer service agent didn't acknowledge the wait time.
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
(Post 30224521)
How can you tell? I have no way of reconciling any changes in my total...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2d89ce6976.png In this case, I got 5,600 base points, 4,200 points because I'm Platinum Premier (75% bonus), and 500 "Extra" -- which is the RI check-in bonus. -mvitale |
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