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lost_in_translation Aug 1, 2020 6:25 am

I also seem to get a random different Ambassador each time as a European member.

On the plus side, since I resumed traveling in July the Ambassador service has become much higher touch, presumably because they have much less to do right now! Have had a proactive reach out email and hand written notes at each of my last three stays (St. Regis Mardavall, Domes Miramare, Mystique where I just checked in) welcoming me back from the Ambassador service as one of my first stays back with Marriott.

UKTraveller4Fun Aug 1, 2020 8:15 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 32573636)
I also seem to get a random different Ambassador each time as a European member.

On the plus side, since I resumed traveling in July the Ambassador service has become much higher touch, presumably because they have much less to do right now! Have had a proactive reach out email and hand written notes at each of my last three stays (St. Regis Mardavall, Domes Miramare, Mystique where I just checked in) welcoming me back from the Ambassador service as one of my first stays back with Marriott.

My stay experienced have been the opposite, absolutly no ambassador interaction with the hotels. Very much now had to take the decision to contact a hotel myself and get details after some misleading information from Ambassadors.

Compared to the standard of service and hotel welcoming when I had a dedicated Ambassador currently the service is very poor. They do respond quickly to emails, which is a sign of them being quiet, although considering many of the responses unsure how many are actually trained Ambassadors and how many just standard customer service.

While still having some stays they are certainly loosing a decent percentage of my business at the moment.

globaltrotter Aug 1, 2020 8:30 am

Do you think Marriott will quietly waive the $20k spend for Ambassador this year if you reach over 100 nights?

Keyser Aug 1, 2020 8:37 am


Originally Posted by globaltrotter (Post 32573843)
Do you think Marriott will quietly waive the $20k spend for Ambassador this year if you reach over 100 nights?

unlikely....they have gifted so many nights to everyone....reaching 100 nights will not be a big deal for many people who would not have reached it under normal circumstances....

lost_in_translation Aug 1, 2020 9:23 am


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 32573809)
My stay experienced have been the opposite, absolutly no ambassador interaction with the hotels. Very much now had to take the decision to contact a hotel myself and get details after some misleading information from Ambassadors.

Compared to the standard of service and hotel welcoming when I had a dedicated Ambassador currently the service is very poor. They do respond quickly to emails, which is a sign of them being quiet, although considering many of the responses unsure how many are actually trained Ambassadors and how many just standard customer service.

While still having some stays they are certainly loosing a decent percentage of my business at the moment.

Disappointing to hear!

UKTraveller4Fun Aug 1, 2020 9:31 am


Originally Posted by lost_in_translation (Post 32573960)
Disappointing to hear!

Yeah, you would think in the current climate Marriott would be doing all it can to retain the people still travelling! I would have hit 100 actual nights this year anyway but looks like quite a bit of that will go elsewhere! Its not like I am staying in anything below a cat 6, in fact last 3 stays have all been Cat 8.

Wozza2404 Aug 2, 2020 4:22 am

Marriott, like Hilton, have the issue that they can’t differentiate between US status and ROW status.

There are a plentitude of ‘road warriors’ out in the US who easily bang through 100+ nights in Courtyard type, low cost hotels. Similarly there are Asian properties with low price points that people use for very long stay purposes. That’s why the spend requirement exists.

Fortunately, threads like these exist to highlight the fact that it’s really not worth bothering with unless you’re hitting it organically regardless.

UKTraveller4Fun Aug 2, 2020 6:20 am


Originally Posted by Wozza2404 (Post 32575603)
Marriott, like Hilton, have the issue that they can’t differentiate between US status and ROW status.

There are a plentitude of ‘road warriors’ out in the US who easily bang through 100+ nights in Courtyard type, low cost hotels. Similarly there are Asian properties with low price points that people use for very long stay purposes. That’s why the spend requirement exists.

Fortunately, threads like these exist to highlight the fact that it’s really not worth bothering with unless you’re hitting it organically regardless.

It is exactly what I have found over the years my Ambassador managed to do, differentiate between the types of guests and where focus should be put. It was what the Ambassador service was founded for. It certainly hasn't been what it was for a long time, but now we are in the depths of new lows and whether Platinum, Titanium or Ambassador I really do not think there is a difference.

​​​​​Fair play to Marriott for extending status, but considering it hasn't been offering the service the status is meant to give it really had to. I this is a golden chance being lost by Marriott and rather than gain loyalty during this period they are pushing myself and other ambassador guests away into the arms of welcoming competitors. So short sighted!

Marriott Bonvoy Lurker II Aug 3, 2020 3:03 am


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 32573809)
My stay experienced have been the opposite, absolutly no ambassador interaction with the hotels. Very much now had to take the decision to contact a hotel myself and get details after some misleading information from Ambassadors.

Compared to the standard of service and hotel welcoming when I had a dedicated Ambassador currently the service is very poor. They do respond quickly to emails, which is a sign of them being quiet, although considering many of the responses unsure how many are actually trained Ambassadors and how many just standard customer service.

While still having some stays they are certainly loosing a decent percentage of my business at the moment.



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Resonant Programmer Aug 14, 2020 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by CarbonTraveler (Post 32534803)
I'm in my second year of being an Ambassador and after asking for assistance only twice and receiving very little help on the first request and absolutely no help on the second request I'd say the Ambassador service is practically useless. If anyone is aiming to make a stretch to for Ambassador, I would advise against it. Maybe I'm in the minority here or I don't spend enough to make me as special as other Ambassadors but I never receive anything from my Ambassador for any of my stays. Short or long. Luxury or economy.

For my last request I emailed my assigned ambassador and the general ambassador email asking for some help in locating a Marriott branded quarantine hotel in Taipei. At the time the Aloft Beitou was booked full. Gave dates of arrival and all necessary info. I received two emails. One from my assigned ambassador saying that she was out of the office and one from another ambassador that just said she would make contact with Marriott employees in Taipei to see if they can give some assistance. That was weeks ago. Crickets since.

TBH, reading some of the great service reports here makes me wonder what my team and I are doing wrong considering that everyone on my team that travels is an Ambassador Elite member and we all get the same lack of attention.

Regarding upgrades. I have just come to expect that I am not getting a room upgrade. Pandemic travel or not. Most times the FDA says that you for being an Ambassador Elite, I have given you a room upgrade I walk into a room and it looks identical to the room I booked. I'd rather just not be given an upgrade to be disappointed.

Sorry this post sounds grim but I feel like the Ambassador status is mostly worthless unless you are someone that enjoys chasing status for sake of having it.

I reached out to my ambassador with the same question. His reply was amazingly helpful.

goodeats21 Sep 25, 2020 9:04 am

So, Ambassador level service continues to decline markedly.

5 night paid stay at Full Service Marriott in New Jersey. Lounge not open, no breakfast amenity even though on-site restaurant is open. Voucher for 1 free coffee, but not open until 6:30 AM.
At check in, was assigned normal room. When I asked about any upgrade available, they went through a 5 minute process to unblock a larger room. When asked if upgrades were not pre-assigned for ambassador guests, they replied with a straight face "we have many elite guests, so larger rooms are not always available".
Note: Never more than 30 cars in the parking lot throughout the week. And they apparently block larger rooms in the system anyway.
No reason to return to this hotel on my next of many upcoming trips to the area.

Also this week called the Ambassador team to make a new reservation using a 7 night cert. Agent that answered was incompetent. Took over 20 minutes, she had no clue how to use their systems, and stated she had never seen a 7 night certificate before. While on the line with her, I checked the reservation and it had a big, bold red note that points would come out of my account to cover the certificate. She "guaranteed" that it would not happen.
It happened. Checking today, 150,000 points were taken from my account, as well as a 7 night certificate. So another call today to try and get it straightened out.

I get COVID presents challenges. It does to me and my business as well.
But it's like Marriott isn't even trying anymore.

UKTraveller4Fun Sep 25, 2020 11:15 am


Originally Posted by goodeats21 (Post 32699980)
So, Ambassador level service continues to decline markedly.

5 night paid stay at Full Service Marriott in New Jersey. Lounge not open, no breakfast amenity even though on-site restaurant is open. Voucher for 1 free coffee, but not open until 6:30 AM.
At check in, was assigned normal room. When I asked about any upgrade available, they went through a 5 minute process to unblock a larger room. When asked if upgrades were not pre-assigned for ambassador guests, they replied with a straight face "we have many elite guests, so larger rooms are not always available".
Note: Never more than 30 cars in the parking lot throughout the week. And they apparently block larger rooms in the system anyway.
No reason to return to this hotel on my next of many upcoming trips to the area.

Also this week called the Ambassador team to make a new reservation using a 7 night cert. Agent that answered was incompetent. Took over 20 minutes, she had no clue how to use their systems, and stated she had never seen a 7 night certificate before. While on the line with her, I checked the reservation and it had a big, bold red note that points would come out of my account to cover the certificate. She "guaranteed" that it would not happen.
It happened. Checking today, 150,000 points were taken from my account, as well as a 7 night certificate. So another call today to try and get it straightened out.

I get COVID presents challenges. It does to me and my business as well.
But it's like Marriott isn't even trying anymore.

I have given up with Ambassador Service and just contacting hotels directly. I then judge by the response from the hotel if they are a property I wish to stay at or not and there is a huge difference in attitude I am finding between different Marriott properties! I agree that there is a feeling with Corporare that they have given up and just don't believe there is business out there to win atm, thankfully some hotels have not adopted the same attitude but don't use the Ambassador service to try and find out as you may find the issues you then face are the Ambassador Service getting it wrong or forgetting to reply or more recently replying with no relevenance to what I asked!!!

Marriott are seeming more like a company that got lucky due to timing rather than great leadership which made them so big they just made money as the demand out stripped supply, now thats reversed the lack of leadership and ideas is showing and filtering down. Just like a great hotel, leadership starts at the GM and their attitude filters down and is infectious, maybe a poor choice of words at the moment but apt all the same!

anteater Sep 25, 2020 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by UKTraveller4Fun (Post 32700285)
I have given up with Ambassador Service and just contacting hotels directly. I then judge by the response from the hotel if they are a property I wish to stay at or not and there is a huge difference in attitude I am finding between different Marriott properties! I agree that there is a feeling with Corporare that they have given up and just don't believe there is business out there to win atm, thankfully some hotels have not adopted the same attitude but don't use the Ambassador service to try and find out as you may find the issues you then face are the Ambassador Service getting it wrong or forgetting to reply or more recently replying with no relevenance to what I asked!!!

This has been my MO since the program merger. There were simply too many service failures from the Ambassador Service that it was easier to just contact hotels directly.

UKTraveller4Fun Sep 25, 2020 6:33 pm


Originally Posted by damnyourefine (Post 32700574)
This has been my MO since the program merger. There were simply too many service failures from the Ambassador Service that it was easier to just contact hotels directly.

I guess I was lucky and had a really good Ambassador who gave me a level of service similar to long before the merger and I genuinely got along with! Now I just get replies that frankly are so copy paste and Marriott bias that they are non personalized and against everything the Ambassador program was originally envisaged to be.. such a shame.

AlohaFridays Nov 25, 2020 2:04 pm

Ambassador Elite is Useless. Not worth aspiring for at all!
 
I just hit Ambassador during COVID and I must say it’s useless. I’ve done a few stays so far and there’s been no upgrades in low occupancy resorts, no courtesies, no lounge, no breakfast, and no acknowledgement at all. It’s the same as gold status.
The dedicated bonvoy line and email is a shared support desk and forwards to China at night.


They can’t do anything for you and when I asked for an upgrade and some tee times they failed to follow-up. I asked about two or thee times and all the said was, “oh I thought the front desk was going to handle it.”

Couldn’t be more disappointed. Don’t push for the status its worthless.


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