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Ambassador Service general phone line (USA): (866) 924-9885
Europe: +353-21-4861 222
USA: +1-866-924-9885
Asia : +86-20-38157156
Marriott Bonvoy ‘Ambassador Elite’ Level : experiences (2020 and earlier)
#3391
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,713
Spot-on, arlflyer. And things like a suite upgrade in an otherwise empty hotel, or a simple hand-written note cost nothing yet potentially gain so much.
#3392
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,455
In an email exchange earlier this week concerning missing points from a prior stay, Ambassador Service wrote:
Great, I thought, finally getting some of that proactive Ambassador intervention others have mentioned. So imagine my surprise at being assigned a dumpster view King at said property. When I expressed my disappointment to Ambassador Service (with pic - see below), I got the following response:
Never mind that I had actually booked an upgraded room, which was unavailable due to "planned renovations."
I wound up at Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, where I was upgraded to Marina View Corner Suite, on a points stay, benefitting from Hyatt's awesome award promo (25% points rebate, free parking).
Point, Hyatt.
Oh and here's the view from my room at CY Del Mar/Solana Beach:
Ambassador = Worthless!
I wish you a lovely stay at Courtyard San Diego Del Mar/Solana Beach tomorrow.
Please kindly note that the upgrades are a subject to availability
I wound up at Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, where I was upgraded to Marina View Corner Suite, on a points stay, benefitting from Hyatt's awesome award promo (25% points rebate, free parking).
Point, Hyatt.
Oh and here's the view from my room at CY Del Mar/Solana Beach:
Ambassador = Worthless!
#3393
Join Date: Oct 2000
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, Marriott Ambassador/Lifetime Titanium, Accor Silver, Club Carlson Gold, BW Diamond
Posts: 2,432
In an email exchange earlier this week concerning missing points from a prior stay, Ambassador Service wrote:
Great, I thought, finally getting some of that proactive Ambassador intervention others have mentioned. So imagine my surprise at being assigned a dumpster view King at said property. When I expressed my disappointment to Ambassador Service (with pic - see below), I got the following response:
..........
Ambassador = Worthless!
Great, I thought, finally getting some of that proactive Ambassador intervention others have mentioned. So imagine my surprise at being assigned a dumpster view King at said property. When I expressed my disappointment to Ambassador Service (with pic - see below), I got the following response:
..........
Ambassador = Worthless!
You're being unreasonable. Ambassador Service was right to reply the way they did.
#3394
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,455
It's a Street View/ City View. And there are renovations occuring at a condo at the Seascape Chateau across the street. Hence, there's a temporary construction dumpster. Every room on that side of the building has a view of that work site. They should update their room descriptions every time something occurs across the street?
You're being unreasonable. Ambassador Service was right to reply the way they did.
You're being unreasonable. Ambassador Service was right to reply the way they did.
#3395
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,152
It's a Street View/ City View. And there are renovations occuring at a condo at the Seascape Chateau across the street. Hence, there's a temporary construction dumpster. Every room on that side of the building has a view of that work site. They should update their room descriptions every time something occurs across the street?
You're being unreasonable. Ambassador Service was right to reply the way they did.
You're being unreasonable. Ambassador Service was right to reply the way they did.
I doubt the hotel was anywhere near full capacity even considering renovations. Only OP can provide more information, but if I had to guess based on my experience some properties will avoid upgrading guests unless there is some pushback or at all costs.
For example, I stayed at Avenue of the Arts earlier this year and they had only a handful of guests due to the pandemic and they absolutely refused to upgrade me to an Executive Suite. The first reason was “we don’t upgrade guests to this room type if they are staying more than one night.” After some back and forth with the GM I was upgraded to a Junior Suite.
There was nothing special about either room either. It felt like a 2 star airport hotel attempting to be trendy. I cannot fathom why they would withhold a room upgrade, especially to a room category they considered eligible. They had numerous Executive Suites unoccupied and for sale.
I learned to avoid that hotel because of the poor customer service and the quality simply isn’t worth the cost.
#3396
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
In an email exchange earlier this week concerning missing points from a prior stay, Ambassador Service wrote:
Great, I thought, finally getting some of that proactive Ambassador intervention others have mentioned. So imagine my surprise at being assigned a dumpster view King at said property. When I expressed my disappointment to Ambassador Service (with pic - see below), I got the following response:
Never mind that I had actually booked an upgraded room, which was unavailable due to "planned renovations."
I wound up at Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, where I was upgraded to Marina View Corner Suite, on a points stay, benefitting from Hyatt's awesome award promo (25% points rebate, free parking).
Point, Hyatt.
Oh and here's the view from my room at CY Del Mar/Solana Beach:
Ambassador = Worthless!
Great, I thought, finally getting some of that proactive Ambassador intervention others have mentioned. So imagine my surprise at being assigned a dumpster view King at said property. When I expressed my disappointment to Ambassador Service (with pic - see below), I got the following response:
Never mind that I had actually booked an upgraded room, which was unavailable due to "planned renovations."
I wound up at Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, where I was upgraded to Marina View Corner Suite, on a points stay, benefitting from Hyatt's awesome award promo (25% points rebate, free parking).
Point, Hyatt.
Oh and here's the view from my room at CY Del Mar/Solana Beach:
Ambassador = Worthless!
Edit: they do call the executive rooms a suite now. So there are "suites" on site.
Last edited by CPH-Flyer; Jul 14, 2020 at 5:36 pm
#3398
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
Really, tried to book something better than a room once I was staying there. Nothing but rooms and an executive room came up. I'll need to have a look again then, though not real outlook for me to go to the San Diego area anytime soon.
Edit: just checked the website, there are "suites", as what used to be an executive room is now a suite. A proper bathtub seems to be the only real difference to the normal King room. Though living in Japan, I do value a proper bathtub.
Edit: just checked the website, there are "suites", as what used to be an executive room is now a suite. A proper bathtub seems to be the only real difference to the normal King room. Though living in Japan, I do value a proper bathtub.
Last edited by CPH-Flyer; Jul 14, 2020 at 5:38 pm
#3399
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,152
If I were staying there and they didn’t have a valid operational reason to deny to upgrade me to said room I wouldn’t stay again. That’s just me though.
If it were a higher end property and a substantial difference in room quality and upkeep, and rate I would understand not being upgraded (eg a specialty suite).
#3400
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
Yes sir, they have them tomorrow for $152 AAA rate. It’s 85 sqft larger than the base rate room and only $25 more.
If I were staying there and they didn’t have a valid operational reason to deny to upgrade me to said room I wouldn’t stay again. That’s just me though.
If it were a higher end property and a substantial difference in room quality and upkeep, and rate I would understand not being upgraded (eg a specialty suite).
If I were staying there and they didn’t have a valid operational reason to deny to upgrade me to said room I wouldn’t stay again. That’s just me though.
If it were a higher end property and a substantial difference in room quality and upkeep, and rate I would understand not being upgraded (eg a specialty suite).
Higher end properties should upgrades to suites as well. I'd probably be more inclined to ignore the missing upgrade at a Courtyard where there is an insignificant difference, than at a full service property where it is an actual suite. 85 square feet, about 7 square meters, and still just one room is probably not what will make me notice the difference anyway.
#3401
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,152
I agree with your logic, but I focus more on the experience.
I spend my dollars where I am treated well and the business is open and honest. I avoid businesses where they aren’t honest or straightforward.
Granted, there’s probably minimal differences between those two rooms at that CY, but if they aren’t upfront with why they are refusing to upgrade to a clearly eligible room category I don’t want to return.
Plenty of hotels treat AE guests well, but not that one.
I spend my dollars where I am treated well and the business is open and honest. I avoid businesses where they aren’t honest or straightforward.
Granted, there’s probably minimal differences between those two rooms at that CY, but if they aren’t upfront with why they are refusing to upgrade to a clearly eligible room category I don’t want to return.
Plenty of hotels treat AE guests well, but not that one.
#3402
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
With current low occupancy rate, it would be hard for a property to create an excuse not to upgrade elites especially ambassadors.
#3403
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 902
With low occupancies and shortened staff levels, it is not unusual for properties to take entire building sections or room floors off inventory.
#3404
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
#3405
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, AA ExecPlat, Amtrak Select Exec, former WN apologist
Posts: 1,428