Originally Posted by nowstime
(Post 26138823)
Visited a local walmart and got $2000 in MO using 4 gcs. Was told to fill out SAR and filled it out.
Did I make a stupid mistake. They said in order to use gift card to purchase MO, it must be filled out but I didn't get a chance to browse the report since they said it has to filled out by them. Got to work and saw the SAR and seems like they should have not collected any of my information. Will IRS be knocking on my door? Does this get recorded some where? |
Originally Posted by gw14
(Post 26140895)
Why do they know you are using gift cards? You tell them 2 $1000 MO, when they tell you $2001.40, you tell them $500 on a debit card, swipe your gc, repeat 3 times and give them $1.40 in cash. No mention of gift cards.
Hello, cashiers, one and all! I bring to you gift cards, some from a mall! In exchange I only require of you, To press five hundred debit, until you turn blue! I promise to fill all the forms that you ask, As long as you let me complete my task. I need only buy MOs, twelve grand today, But tomorrow I'm using your CheckFreePay. |
Originally Posted by CWAL
(Post 26140947)
Today I walked into Walmart and loudly proclaimed...
Hello, cashiers, one and all! I bring to you gift cards, some from a mall! In exchange I only require of you, To press five hundred debit, until you turn blue! I promise to fill all the forms that you ask, As long as you let me complete my task. I need only buy MOs, twelve grand today, But tomorrow I'm using your CheckFreePay. |
I would say most of the CSRs in my area know it is VGCs in action if you mention the magic words "split" and "500". A lot of them just don't care but few might make a big deal about it.
Originally Posted by gw14
(Post 26140895)
Why do they know you are using gift cards? You tell them 2 $1000 MO, when they tell you $2001.40, you tell them $500 on a debit card, swipe your gc, repeat 3 times and give them $1.40 in cash. No mention of gift cards.
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Originally Posted by Chelski
(Post 26140677)
That's false but u can believe if u want
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If you ask in a nice,polite manner, most cashier/reps would oblige and they don't give you a hard time unless technology prevents them. This is my experience anyway. |
I'm reminded of the phrase six of one, half a dozen of the other when people say they cajole WM cashiers to allow them to do separate transactions so as to go around filling of forms and still buying more MOs. Sometimes they win, but if you encounter one that sticks to the policy, your plan is busted. Nothing personal, try your luck again :D
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Originally Posted by Chelski
(Post 26144480)
It doesn't matter if u are nice or polite. What was said is still false, but you can believe if I so choose.
Originally Posted by AndrewTheMan
(Post 26145092)
I've said this before and I will say it again: It's not about HOW MUCH but about HOW you approach the retailers. |
You're really not getting it. Chelski is saying only that the initial claim you made is false:
nfpa70e -- "Anything over 2K you have to fill out the forms." $2K is not the limit before a form is required -- it depends on the store. Your advice about being nice is irrelevant to the false claim, and Chelski isn't arguing against that, anyway. In my experience many are now $2k, but some are higher. I still have 3 $3K stores, but at one it is only $2K if I get a certain cashier. At a few stores I've seen the manuals and the read the limits myself. As late as last fall, one of the $3K stores was $10K and another was $6K. It appears to be up to the management of that store, although I wouldn't discount a directive from WM at any time. As far as I know, that hasn't happened yet. |
Originally Posted by PaulMSN
(Post 26155208)
You're really not getting it. Chelski is saying only that the initial claim you made is false:
nfpa70e -- "Anything over 2K you have to fill out the forms." $2K is not the limit before a form is required -- it depends on the store. Your advice about being nice is irrelevant to the false claim, and Chelski isn't arguing against that, anyway. In my experience many are now $2k, but some are higher. I still have 3 $3K stores, but at one it is only $2K if I get a certain cashier. At a few stores I've seen the manuals and the read the limits myself. As late as last fall, one of the $3K stores was $10K and another was $6K. It appears to be up to the management of that store, although I wouldn't discount a directive from WM at any time. As far as I know, that hasn't happened yet. |
Originally Posted by PaulMSN
(Post 26155208)
It appears to be up to the management of that store, although I wouldn't discount a directive from WM at any time.
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Originally Posted by Chelski
(Post 26156045)
This is right on. They can demand the firm filled out for any value of money order whether it be $50 or $3000 or $2000. There is no hard and fast $2k cut off. Further splitting into multiple transaction doesn't make then purchases somehow less. If you buy 2 $1k MOs in one transaction vs 2 separate transactions for $1k each ten it's still a $2k purchase. The rules have nothing to do with the level of niceness.
I have yet to fill out a form or even be asked for ID. Being nice however makes it easier to complete the transaction without issue.;) |
Originally Posted by radonc1
(Post 26157245)
Being nice however makes it easier to complete the transaction without issue.;)
Whether I get 1 MO, 2 MO, no MO, rules, no rules, I still try to be nice and polite with the employees and reps. That's the bottom line. |
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Originally Posted by Chelski
(Post 26156045)
There is no hard and fast $2k cut off. Further splitting into multiple transaction doesn't make then purchases somehow less. If you buy 2 $1k MOs in one transaction vs 2 separate transactions for $1k each ten it's still a $2k purchase. The rules have nothing to do with the level of niceness.
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