For several years now Andy Hayler has been claiming The Ritz Restaurant to be the best restaurant in London. It is certainly just about the only one that offers classic French cuisine . . . and the room is simply amazing,
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Originally Posted by Pausanias
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For several years now Andy Hayler has been claiming The Ritz Restaurant to be the best restaurant in London. It is certainly just about the only one that offers classic French cuisine . . . and the room is simply amazing,
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Originally Posted by bzado
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I would say when it comes to dining within hotels in London, Darroze is a solid option. In terms of memorably poor experiences, I would vote for Dorchester’s Ducasse as particularly mediocre and Mandarin’s Heston as genuinely appalling. Would be curious to hear your impressions.
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That’s true, and forgetfulness on my part. The Ritz experience is incredible, though I take offence at having to eat myself silly while wearing a tie.
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Originally Posted by offerendum
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I personally don't think much of Darroze, which in my opinion deserves 1 star, but certainly not 3. Ducasse is a nice restaurant and has improved over the years, but it's not really grandiose. Heston is interesting, but quite special. I used to be a fan of Marcus in the Berkeley, but it's now closed. I didn't think Madame Pic was worth 2 stars. So none of the hotel restaurants I know are really great in my eyes.
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There seems to be a growing trend in London and indeed the UK for Michelin-style, tasting menu places to revert back to much simpler food with real menus. For me this can't come soon enough. Chefs claim the costs of maintaining such establishments - that is, financial as well as physical and stress - have become uneconomical. Marcus closed The Berkeley, Claridge's have parted ways with their celebrity chef, Le Gavroche is closing . . . the culinary landscape is changing.
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Originally Posted by bzado
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3* is certainly a bit much, fair. I do not understand the appeal of Heston, what is it that you enjoyed about it? We were considering Pic but location wise, it is just so far from civilization. Good to know that it probably is not worth the odyssey. Likewise, I still have yet to dine at The Ritz - I have found encounters with sonorous tourists seem nigh unavoidable, though I may brave that based on the glowing endorsements in this thread!
I thought the food at Heston was good, no question. But as I said, the historical dishes make it very special and not everyone's cup of tea. I found it absolutely recommendable for a visit, especially as it was something unusual for a change. |
It was always said that two Michelin stars were for the chef, the extra star was for the cutlery, glassware and napkins.
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Originally Posted by Pausanias
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It was always said that two Michelin stars were for the chef, the extra star was for the cutlery, glassware and napkins.
Two should be an elevated experience, beyond excellent food. |
Originally Posted by offerendum
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I personally don't think much of Darroze, which in my opinion deserves 1 star, but certainly not 3. Ducasse is a nice restaurant and has improved over the years, but it's not really grandiose. Heston is interesting, but quite special. I used to be a fan of Marcus in the Berkeley, but it's now closed. I didn't think Madame Pic was worth 2 stars. So none of the hotel restaurants I know are really great in my eyes.
I also went to another 3 stars (not in a hotel) this week with very mixed reviews and thought it was worth the 3 stars as well. Ritz on the other hand, could very well be a two stars. |
OK, time to get back to London hotels, which is the topic of this thread.
Thanks, RichardInSF, moderator, luxury hotels and travel |
Any specific idea of when the Park Hyatt opens next year in London?
The new year will bring some travel and work around the Nine Elms area.. |
Originally Posted by WildTravels
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Any specific idea of when the Park Hyatt opens next year in London?
The new year will bring some travel and work around the Nine Elms area.. |
Trying to decide between the new Pen and a contemporary deluxe room at the Connaught. Any recent feedback?
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Originally Posted by p100a
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Trying to decide between the new Pen and a contemporary deluxe room at the Connaught. Any recent feedback?
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