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KatW Sep 21, 2021 4:18 am


Originally Posted by spgplat21 (Post 33578563)
Thanks for all the replies, and I ended up booking at the Lanesborough. The Claridges looks great and wasn't on my radar because it wasn't bookable that far out through FHR yet, but I plan to check back on it as it gets closer. Oddly, their website says you have to call to book for 3 or more people, so I'm not sure what level room they require for 2 kids, but I liked the decor of the hotel a bit more than the Lanesborough and the reviews of both properties are great so will see what the rates are when they open up FHR bookings.

Thanks for the notes on the Ritz too, the Ritz Paris was one of our favorite hotels ever so we liked the idea of trying the Ritz London, but I know they aren't affiliated other than the similar name and the reviews of Ritz London aren't nearly as glowing.

Hope you plan to report here on your stay.

RichardInSF Nov 5, 2021 9:44 am

I have just finished a two night stay at the newest London Hyatt, the Great Scotland Yard hotel. It will be my last stay.

I had booked a king suite, which already seemed tiny as listed at 332 sq ft. The actual room feels even more claustrophobic as fully 1/3 of the total space is taken up by a hallway and the bathroom. The remaining suite part looks and feels like two well-furnished closets separated by a wall.

Fortunately, when I finally reached the front desk manager, he was able to move me to their top category room, the Sherlock suite. There is only one of these and it is 433 sq ft.This is the one room in this hotel that I would recommend to anyone from the luxury hotel forum. It's still small for a suite, but it is (in the words of Mark Twain) the only room in the entire hotel that you can "...swing a cat in, without doing damage to the cat."

That's really too bad because the service, furnishings, and amenities at the hotel are at the luxury hotel level.

SanDiego1K Nov 5, 2021 9:56 am


Originally Posted by RichardInSF (Post 33704552)
I have just finished a two night stay at the newest London Hyatt, the Great Scotland Yard hotel. It will be my last stay.

I had booked a king suite, which already seemed tiny as listed at 332 sq ft. The actual room feels even more claustrophobic as fully 1/3 of the total space is taken up by a hallway and the bathroom. The remaining suite part looks and feels like two well-furnished closets separated by a wall.

Thanks for your report. This will certainly keep me from staying here. Space is a top priority for me.

RichardInSF Nov 5, 2021 10:05 am


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K (Post 33704593)
Thanks for your report. This will certainly keep me from staying here. Space is a top priority for me.

Closest hotel with good sized suites is the Corinthia.

Nizar Nov 5, 2021 6:04 pm

I know it's not really a favourite here, but have there been any recent stays at the Corinthia ?

What have the overall thoughts and impressions been on hard product and service etc ?

The spa seems amazing

m0hamed Nov 5, 2021 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by RichardInSF (Post 33704552)
I have just finished a two night stay at the newest London Hyatt, the Great Scotland Yard hotel. It will be my last stay.

I had booked a king suite, which already seemed tiny as listed at 332 sq ft. The actual room feels even more claustrophobic as fully 1/3 of the total space is taken up by a hallway and the bathroom. The remaining suite part looks and feels like two well-furnished closets separated by a wall.

Fortunately, when I finally reached the front desk manager, he was able to move me to their top category room, the Sherlock suite. There is only one of these and it is 433 sq ft.This is the one room in this hotel that I would recommend to anyone from the luxury hotel forum. It's still small for a suite, but it is (in the words of Mark Twain) the only room in the entire hotel that you can "...swing a cat in, without doing damage to the cat."

That's really too bad because the service, furnishings, and amenities at the hotel are at the luxury hotel level.

I was looking at this hotel yesterday. The photos on Hyatt’s website look great, but I always look for travellers’ videos on YouTube of exact room types.

LoyaltyLobby did a room tour and it looked tiny, just like you describe. The suite also appeared to be on street level wity cars parked by the window

offerendum Nov 6, 2021 4:42 am

The video is very interesting. On the one hand the furniture is quite nicely done and the bathroom is indeed good sized, especially the generous shower. Therefore the 2 rooms are really small and I guess many people would have problems not to laugh if they shall explain others it's a window in the bedroom. If this is the biggest suite in the hotel the other rooms must be terrible tiny and I fully understand RichardInSFs comments.

EuropeanPete Nov 8, 2021 7:49 pm

I'm off to check out Great Scotland yard next week and will report back. I've generally avoided it because of the room size issues, but I have Hyatt nights I need to turn in by the end of the year, the exceptional Dukes is fully booked and hotels in general are 50%+ above normal rates.

RichardInSF Nov 12, 2021 11:47 am


Originally Posted by Nizar (Post 33705877)
I know it's not really a favourite here, but have there been any recent stays at the Corinthia ?

What have the overall thoughts and impressions been on hard product and service etc ?

The spa seems amazing

I held off replying because I have not stayed here that recently, but as no one else has commented, I thought I'd put in a few thoughts about the rooms.

The lower room categories are (in order): deluxe, executive, and junior suite. They are all just regular rooms and the differentiator is by size.

The lowest room category that actually is suite-like is deluxe junior suite. This is what I booked last time and it had a separate room from the bedroom with a nice desk in it. Hard product was excellent. My problem was that all the deluxe junior suites face an interior courtyard and have no view or mobile reception. Sure, there was wifi, but getting or making network voice calls was impossible.

It's unfortunate because this latter problem can be easily fixed with inexpensive femto-basestations in the courtyard Maybe they have done so by now, but that level of technical knowledge seemed to be above the folks I mentioned it to back then.

They generously moved me at no additional charge to a regular suite, which was a bit quirky in shape due to the building design but overall quite lovely. There are few, if any, rooms with a great view here, but the suites at least overlook the street.

I didn't test the service levels much so can't comment on that.

Nizar Nov 12, 2021 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by RichardInSF (Post 33723446)
I held off replying because I have not stayed here that recently, but as no one else has commented, I thought I'd put in a few thoughts about the rooms.

The lower room categories are (in order): deluxe, executive, and junior suite. They are all just regular rooms and the differentiator is by size.

The lowest room category that actually is suite-like is deluxe junior suite. This is what I booked last time and it had a separate room from the bedroom with a nice desk in it. Hard product was excellent. My problem was that all the deluxe junior suites face an interior courtyard and have no view or mobile reception. Sure, there was wifi, but getting or making network voice calls was impossible.

It's unfortunate because this latter problem can be easily fixed with inexpensive femto-basestations in the courtyard Maybe they have done so by now, but that level of technical knowledge seemed to be above the folks I mentioned it to back then.

They generously moved me at no additional charge to a regular suite, which was a bit quirky in shape due to the building design but overall quite lovely. There are few, if any, rooms with a great view here, but the suites at least overlook the street.

I didn't test the service levels much so can't comment on that.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Funnily enough, deluxe junior suite is the exact same room type that I was looking at. But the phone reception thing could be annoying hmm.

jkirk Nov 13, 2021 8:46 am

We had a generally decent five-night stay at the Corinthia last month. We booked well in advance at an Amex FHR rate that gave us the fourth night free, so it represented good value for us over the leadup to the London Marathon, which my wife was running. The Corinthia is exceptionally close to the finish line, so location was the biggest factor in our choice.

We were in an executive room, which faced onto the courtyard and was spacious for London, although much of the real estate was a large walk-in closet/dressing room. This all worked well for us, giving us ample space for our more-than-usual luggage, and we liked the quiet that came with the courtyard exposure. The neighborhood got somewhat rowdy on the some of the nights we were there, which may have been a function of marathon weekend. Hard product and public spaces were all vary nice, and we had an outstanding dinner at the Tom Kerridge restaurant on property. Front desk staff were friendly and efficient, and happily accommodated our request for a noon checkin.

We didn't have any of the technological/reception issues mentioned above.

We had one major glitch at the outset of our stay, as the driver the hotel had arranged to pick us up at Heathrow didn't want to wear a mask, telling us he was "medically exempt" and not required to do so. We had, however, insisted from the hotel when we booked the car that we'd be assigned a fully vaccinated driver who would wear a mask, and the hotel gave us that assurance. (This was our first trip abroad since the onset of Covid, and we did not want to risk getting stuck in the UK, as my wife would be running the Boston Marathon a week after London). The driver, grumpily, ultimately agreed to wear a mask when it became clear we were not going to get into his car otherwise. We told the concierge staff about the experience, and they were appropriately annoyed on our behalf, and waived the fee for that car transfer.

The biggest annoyance of the stay was failure of housekeeping to replenish coffee cups, drinking glasses, etc. It was impossible to have a cup of tea in the afternoon, or a nightcap from the minibar, because everything was cleared away at morning by housekeeping and never replaced. So every day we would have to call requesting this stuff, and eventually housekeeping would bring us glasses, cups, etc., although often not what we asked for. It was an annoyance, and when we complained, hotel staff seemed confused as to why we'd be bothered by this. My guess is that it's a result of staffing shortages, and it struck me as fairly typical of the sort of shortcoming that is common at luxury properties (outside the very top tier) in the pandemic era.

Another odd thing was that one of our neighbors down the hall (possibly Sylvester Stallone, who was staying on site) had a bodyguard stationed outside their door whenever they were in their room, so that was a bit strange.

We'd consider staying there again, but on the whole, there are other properties and neighborhoods we like a bit better, so you're more likely to find us, in the future, at the Rosewood, Batty Langley's (which, I know, isn't "luxury"), or one of the Firmdale properties.

jbb Nov 13, 2021 9:35 am

My wife is planning on extending a business stay in London for a few days and is looking for a hipper/trendier luxury hotel. Usually we stay in a place like the Beaumont or Stafford or a more traditional luxury property when we're together, but she prefers more funky places. I was thinking of one of the Firmdale properties (right now it seems Soho and Haymarket are the only ones open), but did anyone have any other suggestions? She prefers a more feminine but still bold design vibe and these seemed like the best options as many of the other boutique hotels seemed to have a more masculine design sense. I checked MrandMrsSmith for suggestions and Firmdale accounts for a lot of their London list.

sophialite Nov 13, 2021 9:36 pm

I believe the hamyard is also open

TGLoyalty Nov 15, 2021 5:02 pm


Originally Posted by jkirk (Post 33725360)
The biggest annoyance of the stay was failure of housekeeping to replenish coffee cups, drinking glasses, etc. It was impossible to have a cup of tea in the afternoon, or a nightcap from the minibar, because everything was cleared away at morning by housekeeping and never replaced. So every day we would have to call requesting this stuff, and eventually housekeeping would bring us glasses, cups, etc., although often not what we asked for. It was an annoyance, and when we complained, hotel staff seemed confused as to why we'd be bothered by this. My guess is that it's a result of staffing shortages, and it struck me as fairly typical of the sort of shortcoming that is common at luxury properties (outside the very top tier) in the pandemic era

Stayed here for 3 nights in August and the lack of welcome/assistance from the doorman would sum up the general lack of attention from the staff throughout the stay.

On each occasion housekeeping would forget something such not replacing used glasses and on one occasion taking all the towels but then forgetting to replace them.

Wrong / missing items from the room service breakfast.

All fixed with one phone call but really why should I have to!

Have to say the food and service in Kerridges was impeccable and Were given a very nice large room overlooking the street but with very little street noise, which can often be a problem in London hotels. The breakfast in the restaurant had lots of high quality choices and lots attentive staff.

Incidentally spent my fourth night of this trip at GSY in the Sherlock Suite (booked guaranteed upgrade from King Premium on a Prive rate) and thought the fit and finish of the hotel was great. Yes it’s not the largest suite I’ve ever stayed in but I can’t say I was disappointed. I believe there is at least one on every floor rather than just one in the whole hotel.

The barman in the 40 elephants made some great off menu cocktails and the sibkin whisky bar looks like it could be a great spot for a late night drink when it finally opens.

m0hamed Nov 15, 2021 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by TGLoyalty (Post 33731764)
Incidentally spent my fourth night of this trip at GSY in the Sherlock Suite (booked guaranteed upgrade from King Premium on a Prive rate) and thought the fit and finish of the hotel was great. Yes it’s not the largest suite I’ve ever stayed in but I can’t say I was disappointed. I believe there is at least one on every floor rather than just one in the whole hotel.

This is quite surprising. May consider for 2022.

What's the rest of the property like? The townhouse looks quite spectacular.

RichardInSF Nov 15, 2021 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 33731904)
This is quite surprising. May consider for 2022.

What's the rest of the property like? The townhouse looks quite spectacular.

I hinted about getting a look at the townhouse but was unsuccessful.


Originally Posted by TGLoyalty (Post 33731764)
...Incidentally spent my fourth night of this trip at GSY in the Sherlock Suite (booked guaranteed upgrade from King Premium on a Prive rate) and thought the fit and finish of the hotel was great. Yes it’s not the largest suite I’ve ever stayed in but I can’t say I was disappointed. I believe there is at least one on every floor rather than just one in the whole hotel.

The barman in the 40 elephants made some great off menu cocktails and the sibkin whisky bar looks like it could be a great spot for a late night drink when it finally opens.

The rooms manager told me that there was only one Sherlock suite, but I might have misheard.

Totally agree about the barman.

TGLoyalty Nov 18, 2021 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 33731904)
This is quite surprising. May consider for 2022.

What's the rest of the property like? The townhouse looks quite spectacular.

Personally I was very impressed by the all the public areas but due to covid restrictions it just wouldn’t be as lively as it could. I feel Hyatt is holding on to the peak covid rules a little too long here but can understand they want people to feel safe.

I haven’t stayed at the Churchill but I know I’d pick GSY over Andaz every day of the week.

m0hamed Nov 18, 2021 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by TGLoyalty (Post 33740448)
Personally I was very impressed by the all the public areas but due to covid restrictions it just wouldn’t be as lively as it could. I feel Hyatt is holding on to the peak covid rules a little too long here but can understand they want people to feel safe.

I haven’t stayed at the Churchill but I know I’d pick GSY over Andaz every day of the week.

Andaz is hideous. We checked in and checked out immediately after opening.

The elevators were out of service and a very skinny teenager was lugging our bags up the stairs. We felt bad and carried them ourselves.

The suites are the oddest shapes and completely unliveable.

The top suites at The Churchill are decent. Balconies and fresh air are pretty important to us because of Covid.

KatW Dec 9, 2021 3:06 pm

Dorchester getting big renovation.

https://www.luxurytraveladvisor.com/...enovation-1989

jp-mco Dec 10, 2021 7:25 am


Originally Posted by KatW (Post 33799403)

They're only renovating two guest floors? The whole place needs gutting and starting again. This sounds like a quick tickle of paint around the edges.

Jerkstore Dec 10, 2021 8:57 am

They renovated a lot of guest rooms in the 2010s. This seems to finish the work.

Goodmorning2U Dec 12, 2021 4:30 pm

Many of the rooms, three up from the first tier, are gorgeous, and the restaurants are wonderful as well. What needs work is the gym and the spa. The service has improved under the current GM but it still is not the Four Seasons.

CGRA Feb 13, 2022 1:07 pm

Between the Corinthia and the MO which one has the best / less crowded SPA facilities (steam pool etc)

I love the Bulgari SPA but there is no 3rd night free with FHR.

Shangri-La Feb 25, 2022 4:13 pm

St. Regis to join the long list of brands to open in London over the next few years:

UK’s first St Regis hotel is coming to London in 2023 (msn.com)

Taking over what was The Westbury Hotel.

offerendum Feb 28, 2022 1:27 pm

Any actural thought about Belmond? Have a 500 $ voucher to burn and rates are quite OK (even as Junior Suites are in fact rooms). Nevertheless can´t say I´m flashed and with rates for a Junior Suite at Lanesborough are quite compareable I´m not so sure.

MattEvan Mar 2, 2022 2:38 pm

Anyone tried the Pan Pacific yet? Looks interesting, if a bit bland for London.

m0hamed Mar 2, 2022 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by MattEvan (Post 34039811)
Anyone tried the Pan Pacific yet? Looks interesting, if a bit bland for London.

Thought the exact thing when I looked yesterday. I also don't understand Pan Pac as a brand.

KatW Mar 8, 2022 11:14 am


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 34033018)
Any actural thought about Belmond? Have a 500 $ voucher to burn and rates are quite OK (even as Junior Suites are in fact rooms). Nevertheless can´t say I´m flashed and with rates for a Junior Suite at Lanesborough are quite compareable I´m not so sure.

Did you decide on the Lanesborough? i’ll be there 27 April - 3 May.

offerendum Mar 9, 2022 12:02 am


Originally Posted by KatW (Post 34058434)
Did you decide on the Lanesborough? i’ll be there 27 April - 3 May.

Yes, I did. And we will be there same time, Corona permitting of course.

MattEvan Mar 9, 2022 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by MacMyDay (Post 30131566)

So, does anyone know how The Beaumont is under the new (as of mid-2021), general manager?

Have the new masters killed what was once perfect?

obscure2k Mar 9, 2022 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by KatW (Post 34058434)
Did you decide on the Lanesborough? i’ll be there 27 April - 3 May.

One of my sons stayed there twice in one month. Each stay was about 7 days. I believe this was in January. He thought the service was superb.

MattEvan Mar 22, 2022 10:26 am

Pan Pacific London
 

Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 34039818)
Thought the exact thing when I looked yesterday. I also don't understand Pan Pac as a brand.

Ok, I took one for the team and booked the Pan Pacific London for a three-night stay. I am in residence now. And I booked another stay for next week a few minutes after checking in.

It is not bland, but rather, it is outstanding. I am in a Bishopsgate Suite and it's perfect. The location is phenomenal if this area is where you need or want to be.

Will post a fuller account of my experience shortly.

KatW Apr 2, 2022 6:55 pm

Anticipated Luxury Hotel Openings in London, 2022

https://luxurylondon.co.uk/travel/lo...on-hotels-2022

Some of the rates indicate less-than-luxe status.

EuropeanPete Apr 2, 2022 11:43 pm

Raffles will attract the most attention here. The Twenty Two should I think be the most interesting for people who know London.

Jermyn Apr 7, 2022 1:41 am

Completed a site inspection of The Guardsman recently.
Directly across the road from the Taj, close to Victoria station.

Modern and elegant decor, definitely not the place for people who favour embroidery, four poster beds etc.

Interesting concept: hotel closed to non-residents (and their guests). Idea is to make the hotel feel completely residential - like a members club.
Drinks and meals can be ordered anywhere in the main lounge area. Larger restaurant downstairs too.

Rooms are very well appointed with all modern hardware that you'd expect. Big focus on sustainability in terms of amenities provided too (without compromising on quality).

Also toured a couple of residences, which had very modern and attractive kitchen/ dining areas (i.e not the usual butler's pantry)

Interested to hear client feedback on the overall experience, have guests staying there in a few weeks...

Hotel participates in iPrefer - Preferred Platinum (usual amenities, as per Virtuoso)

TOMFORD Apr 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Beaumont seems suspiciously cheap for Mayfair... what's the deal? I mean I like a nice hotel but I also like spending $500 instead of $1500 per night.

MattEvan Apr 13, 2022 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by TOMFORD (Post 34162658)
Beaumont seems suspiciously cheap for Mayfair... what's the deal? I mean I like a nice hotel but I also like spending $500 instead of $1500 per night.

Tiny, tiny rooms. Suites are lovely though. Hotel was sold by Corbyn & King and the GM "retired" and I think it's declined a bit.

steveholt May 18, 2022 11:54 am

With a budget of about £1500 per night, is there a hotel anyone could recommend with the following features as priorities:

- a large bathtub, preferably with a view of the city and heated floors
- an expansive spa/gym
- easy access to the Tube

Location within London isn't particularly important, we've traveled to London many times and have no trouble getting around.

steveholt May 18, 2022 11:55 am


Originally Posted by MattEvan (Post 34096952)
Ok, I took one for the team and booked the Pan Pacific London for a three-night stay. I am in residence now. And I booked another stay for next week a few minutes after checking in.

It is not bland, but rather, it is outstanding. I am in a Bishopsgate Suite and it's perfect. The location is phenomenal if this area is where you need or want to be.

Will post a fuller account of my experience shortly.

Could you share your experience?

BENLEE May 18, 2022 11:48 pm


Originally Posted by steveholt (Post 34260882)
With a budget of about £1500 per night, is there a hotel anyone could recommend with the following features as priorities:

- a large bathtub, preferably with a view of the city and heated floors
- an expansive spa/gym
- easy access to the Tube

Location within London isn't particularly important, we've traveled to London many times and have no trouble getting around.

Lanesborough London Junior Suite fit most of the criteria. There is a large tub in the ensuite bathroom. Floors are heated. The gym/spa is huge. Tube station right outside the hotel entrance ( Hyde Park Corner ). Only thing missing is a view from the tub. Decor is very British classical if you like the style ( I do ), but its matter of personal taste.


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