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seiknujnama Feb 24, 2018 9:06 am

Fan of M.O - MO recognition program
 
Mandarin Oriental is rolling out their own guest recognition program.
Basically they wants guest to book directly with them.
More details https://www.mandarinoriental.com/fan...fits-enrolment

Booking with MO fan club agent is still the best way.

Kagehitokiri Feb 24, 2018 9:32 am

credit (first standard i think)
12pm / 4pm - 'guaranteed' ?
upgrade - curious re limits

(FHR 4pm not always honored)

KatW Feb 24, 2018 9:34 am

Given this new access to benefits, how is booking through agent better?

Aventine Feb 24, 2018 9:48 am

Agents should be able to get early check-ins as needed and late check outs beyond 4pm. Ensure upgrades go as far as possible. Get you a full breakfast delivered the way you want.

This Fans of MO is FanClub without paying the agents. I'd be interested to see how it works out with stay experiences. If there's a true difference or not.

MikeFromTokyo Feb 24, 2018 9:49 am

This is excellent news to me as I prefer to book directly^

United747 Feb 24, 2018 11:21 am


Originally Posted by KatW (Post 29453495)
Given this new access to benefits, how is booking through agent better?

Looks like you only get to pick 2 benefits not them all. So the agent seems to be able to still get you everything rather than have to choose between them all.

MikeFromTokyo Feb 24, 2018 11:51 am


Originally Posted by United747 (Post 29453825)
Looks like you only get to pick 2 benefits not them all. So the agent seems to be able to still get you everything rather than have to choose between them all.

In practice MO is not liberal with upgrades anyway on TA booking

This is a huge step in the right direction. And, if a guest specifically selects upgrade, the hotels may be more likely to honor. And if not available, I am sure they would provide an alternate choice of benefit.

Nicoolio Feb 24, 2018 12:53 pm

Did I miss something?

Are there any tiers or added benefit one achieves by multiple stays or booking suites?

Also, is there any higher level of recognition for frequent guests. The way I read it, I could sign up, stay once at an MO hotel, and be entitled to the same benefits as somebody who stays with MO 20 times a year.

MikeFromTokyo Feb 24, 2018 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Nicoolio (Post 29454092)
Did I miss something?

Are there any tiers or added benefit one achieves by multiple stays or booking suites?

Also, is there any higher level of recognition for frequent guests. The way I read it, I could sign up, stay once at an MO hotel, and be entitled to the same benefits as somebody who stays with MO 20 times a year.

No luxury hotel group like MO would ever publish loyalty program “tier benefits.” This seems to be something designed to recapture direct bookings from people who book through FHR or TAs just because of the associated benefits.

offerendum Feb 24, 2018 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo (Post 29454117)


No luxury hotel group like MO would ever publish loyalty program “tier benefits.” This seems to be something designed to recapture direct bookings from people who book through FHR or TAs just because of the associated benefits.

I agree! Aman does the same without program.
So far I‘m not convinced by the new program and will continue to book through agent or FHR.

KatW Feb 24, 2018 7:40 pm

Well, one can do BOTH and I intend to.

Aventine Feb 24, 2018 7:54 pm

Seems kind of redundant doesn't it? I'm sure they'll take steps to avoid stacking benefits.

KatW Feb 24, 2018 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by Aventine (Post 29455210)
Seems kind of redundant doesn't it? I'm sure they'll take steps to avoid stacking benefits.

Let me explain: No stacking. Sometimes it wll be most covenient to book directly with MO website. Other times it will be useful to book through an agent. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

MichelinMan Feb 25, 2018 2:26 am

I know I´m an agent, so my take will come across as defensive and biased, but Fan of MO sounds like a complete joke.

Most people I know don´t use an agent solely as a means to an end - ie, they don´t look at the agent solely as a vehicle for amenities. (That´s actually the complete opposite of why most clients go searching for an agent, to be honest, and the better way to look at an agent - in my mind - isn´t all about amenities, but having an advocate and leveraging relationships to the client´s benefit.)

MO will find every and any way possible to get around honoring these ´amenities´...not available, sold out, this one doesn´t apply to that hotel...front desk clerks will either not know what it is or downright ignore the ´better ones´. Upgrades via this method will be hard to come by, if not impossible. To a hotel, early check-in/late check-out are throwaway amenities, too.

MO is often stingy with benefits and needs pushing around from an agent. Booking via ´Fan of MO´ will be the new basic online booking. Agent bookings will still get priority and GMs will still favor those booking channels they have direct relationships with, regardless of the bottom line.

(I´m not just rambling here - I´ve spoken to a few MO GMs and sales people and nobody is excited about the prospect of John Doe showing up thinking he´s booked under some special VIP rate.)

My .02 cents.

offerendum Feb 25, 2018 3:22 am


Originally Posted by MichelinMan (Post 29455886)
I know I´m an agent, so my take will come across as defensive and biased, but Fan of MO sounds like a complete joke.

Most people I know don´t use an agent solely as a means to an end - ie, they don´t look at the agent solely as a vehicle for amenities. (That´s actually the complete opposite of why most clients go searching for an agent, to be honest, and the better way to look at an agent - in my mind - isn´t all about amenities, but having an advocate and leveraging relationships to the client´s benefit.)

MO will find every and any way possible to get around honoring these ´amenities´...not available, sold out, this one doesn´t apply to that hotel...front desk clerks will either not know what it is or downright ignore the ´better ones´. Upgrades via this method will be hard to come by, if not impossible. To a hotel, early check-in/late check-out are throwaway amenities, too.

MO is often stingy with benefits and needs pushing around from an agent. Booking via ´Fan of MO´ will be the new basic online booking. Agent bookings will still get priority and GMs will still favor those booking channels they have direct relationships with, regardless of the bottom line.

(I´m not just rambling here - I´ve spoken to a few MO GMs and sales people and nobody is excited about the prospect of John Doe showing up thinking he´s booked under some special VIP rate.)

My .02 cents.

Sounds plausible


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