Originally Posted by Pausanias
(Post 28848977)
I think some of the demands outlined here and elsewhere on this Forum - regarding climate control, menu choices etc - are quite unreasonable in places such as Fiji and Madagascar where the infrastructure is so fragile or non-existent. In a place like Hawaii or Barbados or Bali maybe these sort of demands are realistic.
I remember once staying at a place called Peponi, near Lamu in Kenya, which lacked air conditioning and many so-called luxuries, yet the hotel drew many luminaries and celebs because of its utter remoteness and tranquility. The owner explained to us in great detail how her entire day, entire week, entire life was spent dealing with suppliers and getting stuff in from Nairobi on a daily basis. It was a miracle, really. Yet the guests made allowances and understood the problems and just enjoyed the place for what it was. I think something similar happens at a place like Mnemba, that little beach shack off the coast of Zanzibar. Now people demand 65 degrees in their room when the outside is 100 degrees heat and 90 percent humidity and people demand fresh foie gras or whatever. Frankly I don't care if the air-con breaks down or if the kitchen can't supply a ***Michelin dinner on a whim. Madagascar is not like Dubai. There is a price factor, of course, but even a ludicrous $6000 a night can't really deliver on some of the expectations and demands. Common sense must tell you that. If you want 3 figures or even 6 figures a night then you should be able to cater to needs and desires. A remote location doesn't mean much these days. Just another excuse as others have illustrated in this thread. |
Just thinking about these tropical climates and the immense differences in temperatures and humidity between building and environment... it takes a toll on the structures. Not saying it isn't possible, but it requires very elaborate environmental control systems and architecture. I think it takes more than just a powerful condenser unit for our A/C needs. It means serious investment.
The Brando is a wonderful example of what can be done in terms of 'natural' A/C. Especially since the system these days is able to deliver impressive results. Sad to hear about Laucala. Any knows who is doing interim? |
Just returned from Laucala for my birthday. Petra Trapp is the general manager for the front of house. When we landed we were the only villa occupied out of the 25 so we were well taken care of by the 450 staff. Service, warmth and enthusiasm unrivalled. Air conditioning made the bedroom like an ice box! The resort is closing for renovations for much of October. I can't wait to return again.
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I would hope the service was exemplary with 450 staff serving 1-2 guests!
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many here like properties that are not like regular hotels. such properties can have very high costs (not rates) and be unprofitable regardless of high rates. i would always like to see more such properties. i dont really care if regular hotel rooms have lower rates, which they may not over holidays.
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Laucala now has competition in Fiji -- similar experience, better pricing: Kokomo Island:
https://www.kokomoislandfiji.com/dow...fact-sheet.pdf |
Originally Posted by bhrubin
(Post 28849905)
You know not of what you speak.
I've also been to Anjajavy L'Hotel in Madagascar. . . You may not care, but then you don't ever seem to go to such properties. |
Originally Posted by Pausanias
(Post 29064173)
I vaguely seem to remember that it was me who 'sent' you to Anjajavy . . .
Of course, the air con at Anjajavy worked as well as advertised. We obviously have different requirements and expectations when it comes to remote luxury, despite the fact that we both enjoy remote locales—and that’s ok. You refer in previous posts to people demanding amenities, whereas I see properties advertising amenities and then not delivering on them. Your opinion is based on a false equivalency to my mind. |
That looks promising! Anyone planning a trip? Please do report back if so. I might think about it for next year.
Originally Posted by KatW
(Post 29063343)
Laucala now has competition in Fiji -- similar experience, better pricing: Kokomo Island:
https://www.kokomoislandfiji.com/dow...fact-sheet.pdf |
Originally Posted by Baghoarder
(Post 29070084)
That looks promising! Anyone planning a trip? Please do report back if so. I might think about it for next year.
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Originally Posted by Pausanias
(Post 29064173)
I vaguely seem to remember that it was me who 'sent' you to Anjajavy . . .
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxu...l#post21523044 posted Jun 30, 2010 > >
Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
(Post 14223242)
Originally Posted by gallivanters
[on twitter that day] Anjajavy L'Hôtel, on an isolated island in NW Madagascar, reached only by private charter
Originally Posted by welltended
(Post 29057792)
our stay at Kokomo
Originally Posted by poohbear0218
(Post 28480988)
Dec 2017 Kokomo Private Island Fiji
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@MacMyDay, looking forward to a comparative review of Kokomo and Laucala (of contemporaneous stays), especially given some of the patchy reports on Laucala!
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Originally Posted by Baghoarder
(Post 29638927)
@MacMyDay, looking forward to a comparative review of Kokomo and Laucala (of contemporaneous stays), especially given some of the patchy reports on Laucala!
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1842/...caba5a8d_b.jpg Looks like Long John Silver had a car boot sale I get it: parts are rustic, but you can do rustic and be classy, see Messrs Island, North and Laucala. The story around Kokomo was Lane Walker coming in to save the day with $100m to complete the abandoned property, but I cannot help but believe that's a nice story rather than the reality. I fail to see see where the money went, other than on marketing boffins coming up with the innovative named restaurant: Walker d'Plank. And deciding how many stars they should have whilst rewording what all-inclusive means. Alcohol is an optional daily supplement of $150 per person, so I think they've taken the all-inclusive name in vain a bit there. Welcome to Kokomo Island Fiji, where pristine reefs set the scene for an unrivalled, all-inclusive 6 Star experience It's a good property, it's just not a great one - and at these prices, it needs to be. |
Thanks for the review (as always!) and the great photos.
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Macmyday - Did you dodge the weather and ever get to Hawaii?
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