Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 24, 2011, 4:09 am
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One clacker board - at least it seemed to me - is in T1 check-in area. As you walk in to the terminal and look at the heavens. Another one I recall used to be in B. I guess near the now Bayer revolving sign; now we have screens which are silent. No more sound of falling dominoes.
Aug 26, 2011, 12:24 am
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BCN-FRA-SFO
My parents will be transiting through FRA this weekend, BCN-FRA-SFO. Looks like they will be arriving at the B bus gates and only have 65 min. I'm trying to write up some instructions to help them (other than the "follow the signs" disclaimer), but I'm still confused about a few things. They will be on business class tickets
When they arrive from the bus it sound like they go up the escalator and through passport control. (even through they are from a within EU flight)
They then go through a transfer security check(?) and then go down to the tunnel of horror? Is there an expedited security line here for business class?
Once they come to the other end of the tunnel they take an elevator up to the US departure level. Do they go through another security check here?
The other option seems to be, (from Oliver2002) they arrive by bus and go through passport check. They exit terminal B to the land side. Walk to terminal A. Go up the escalator before the security check. Go through security and go to gate. Is this correct?
Is the recommendation that if the transfer security is busy then they should cross over land side? But if the security is light than they should go through the tunnel?
Thanks for the help
When they arrive from the bus it sound like they go up the escalator and through passport control. (even through they are from a within EU flight)
They then go through a transfer security check(?) and then go down to the tunnel of horror? Is there an expedited security line here for business class?
Once they come to the other end of the tunnel they take an elevator up to the US departure level. Do they go through another security check here?
The other option seems to be, (from Oliver2002) they arrive by bus and go through passport check. They exit terminal B to the land side. Walk to terminal A. Go up the escalator before the security check. Go through security and go to gate. Is this correct?
Is the recommendation that if the transfer security is busy then they should cross over land side? But if the security is light than they should go through the tunnel?
Thanks for the help
Aug 26, 2011, 4:53 am
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My parents will be transiting through FRA this weekend, BCN-FRA-SFO. Looks like they will be arriving at the B bus gates and only have 65 min. I'm trying to write up some instructions to help them (other than the "follow the signs" disclaimer), but I'm still confused about a few things. They will be on business class tickets
When they arrive from the bus it sound like they go up the escalator and through passport control. (even through they are from a within EU flight)
They then go through a transfer security check(?) and then go down to the tunnel of horror? Is there an expedited security line here for business class?
Once they come to the other end of the tunnel they take an elevator up to the US departure level. Do they go through another security check here?
The other option seems to be, (from Oliver2002) they arrive by bus and go through passport check. They exit terminal B to the land side. Walk to terminal A. Go up the escalator before the security check. Go through security and go to gate. Is this correct?
Is the recommendation that if the transfer security is busy then they should cross over land side? But if the security is light than they should go through the tunnel?
Thanks for the help
When they arrive from the bus it sound like they go up the escalator and through passport control. (even through they are from a within EU flight)
They then go through a transfer security check(?) and then go down to the tunnel of horror? Is there an expedited security line here for business class?
Once they come to the other end of the tunnel they take an elevator up to the US departure level. Do they go through another security check here?
The other option seems to be, (from Oliver2002) they arrive by bus and go through passport check. They exit terminal B to the land side. Walk to terminal A. Go up the escalator before the security check. Go through security and go to gate. Is this correct?
Is the recommendation that if the transfer security is busy then they should cross over land side? But if the security is light than they should go through the tunnel?
Thanks for the help
Much of the description of B bus arrivals in this thread is about arrivals from non-Schengen. Schengen bus arrivals in B will be slightly different but unfortunately I am not familiar with the actual route. Perhaps someone more familiar with Schengen bus arrivals can comment?
Actually "follow the signs" is not a disclaimer but the only meaningful advice one can give especially without knowing where the incoming flight will park and the connecting flight will depart from. With a few exceptions (e.g. A380 departures, UA departures) they can vary from day to day, especially at weekends.
Aug 26, 2011, 8:25 am
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I just flew FRA-IAD. After going through the normal pre-U.S. security before entering the gates in the A50s and A60s area, I was subjected to an immediate second security screening. Literally, after collecting my stuff from the belt and walking through the metal detector, they search my stuff by hand, do a pat down, etc. Then they want to see my boarding pass. How stupid. But I suppose it was done based on guidance from the US government.
Aug 26, 2011, 1:19 pm
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Which flights will they be on? LH to SFO is the A380 and almost certainly departs from a C gate but if on UA metal the flight is likely to depart from an A gate.
Much of the description of B bus arrivals in this thread is about arrivals from non-Schengen. Schengen bus arrivals in B will be slightly different but unfortunately I am not familiar with the actual route. Perhaps someone more familiar with Schengen bus arrivals can comment?
Actually "follow the signs" is not a disclaimer but the only meaningful advice one can give especially without knowing where the incoming flight will park and the connecting flight will depart from. With a few exceptions (e.g. A380 departures, UA departures) they can vary from day to day, especially at weekends.
Much of the description of B bus arrivals in this thread is about arrivals from non-Schengen. Schengen bus arrivals in B will be slightly different but unfortunately I am not familiar with the actual route. Perhaps someone more familiar with Schengen bus arrivals can comment?
Actually "follow the signs" is not a disclaimer but the only meaningful advice one can give especially without knowing where the incoming flight will park and the connecting flight will depart from. With a few exceptions (e.g. A380 departures, UA departures) they can vary from day to day, especially at weekends.
Aug 26, 2011, 3:11 pm
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Today and tomorrow the arrival gate of LH1125 is A34 according to lufthansa.com, on Sunday it may be a bus gate.
If arriving at A34 all they need to do is to walk to A26 and go up the elevator to passport control and non-Schengen A Pier. They will probably have enough time for a quick visit to the Tower Lounge.
If arriving at A34 all they need to do is to walk to A26 and go up the elevator to passport control and non-Schengen A Pier. They will probably have enough time for a quick visit to the Tower Lounge.
Aug 26, 2011, 8:15 pm
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Today and tomorrow the arrival gate of LH1125 is A34 according to lufthansa.com, on Sunday it may be a bus gate.
If arriving at A34 all they need to do is to walk to A26 and go up the elevator to passport control and non-Schengen A Pier. They will probably have enough time for a quick visit to the Tower Lounge.
If arriving at A34 all they need to do is to walk to A26 and go up the elevator to passport control and non-Schengen A Pier. They will probably have enough time for a quick visit to the Tower Lounge.
thanks again
Aug 27, 2011, 3:18 pm
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Yes unfortunately, they are on Sunday's LH1125 which is showing as bus gate B1 right now. Before the trip they were concerned and I kept telling them that they will probably come into the A gates and have a short walk. This was my worst case scenario and I was hoping to send them some info to help them along...
thanks again
thanks again
I hope it will be on time tomorrow.
Aug 28, 2011, 4:47 am
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LH1125 arrived at a bus gate today but at least it was early. I'm sure your parents won't have any problem finding their departure gate at A65.
Aug 28, 2011, 8:20 am
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I'm thinking about buying a ticket doing LH147 NUE to FRA and then LH962 FRA to EDI. I would only have 50 minutes to connect. I think I may have to go from A to B. Is that enough time?
If I missed the connection due to the first flight being late, will LH reroute me on a later flight via LHR?
If I missed the connection due to the first flight being late, will LH reroute me on a later flight via LHR?
Aug 28, 2011, 9:09 am
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I'm thinking about buying a ticket doing LH147 NUE to FRA and then LH962 FRA to EDI. I would only have 50 minutes to connect. I think I may have to go from A to B. Is that enough time?
If I missed the connection due to the first flight being late, will LH reroute me on a later flight via LHR?
If I missed the connection due to the first flight being late, will LH reroute me on a later flight via LHR?
If you can buy a ticket with a short connection LH should take care of you in case of misconnection.
Aug 29, 2011, 2:48 am
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When are you travelling? On some random dates I checked in September and October, LH147 arrives in FRA at 12:40 and LH962 departs at 12:10. Perhaps you have other flights in mind?
If you can buy a ticket with a short connection LH should take care of you in case of misconnection.
If you can buy a ticket with a short connection LH should take care of you in case of misconnection.
Aug 29, 2011, 3:30 am
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OK, I got it. Since LH sells tickets for this connection they should put you on a later flight if you miss the connection. You may not be able to choose which flight, though.
Aug 29, 2011, 1:55 pm
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Y'all be delighted to know that one of the lifts from the Tunnel of Hate at the A-concourse end is out of order at the moment.
It's also possible to get from A30 to the B2x Business Lounge in 14 minutes with a fag break
It's also possible to get from A30 to the B2x Business Lounge in 14 minutes with a fag break
Aug 29, 2011, 1:58 pm
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This will be probably be a double bus job, but doable if the flights are on time, if you end up at B-Schengen bus gates, then it's a doddle.