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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
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 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
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 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
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 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
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 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Dec 20, 2018, 10:26 am
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Last time I connected in FRA in March 2018. My flight from Budapest stopped at A10, and my following flight to New York was at C14. I used the skytrain (the station is next to A10) from A/Z to B/C. When I arrived to the platform at A, both train carriages door were open. I chose the first one. When I arrived to station Concourse C, only the second carriage doors opened, so I had to go to Terminal 2, and then go back to station B/C. Finally I walked to my gate, and I had to go through a huge passport control and a smaller security control.
In a few weeks I will go to San Juan with Condor, and again I will connect in Frankfurt. My plane from Budapest probably will arrive to A, and I know from the past that my Condor plane will depart from C. But in this case I have only 50 minutes to do this connection. (I did it in the past 2 times by the way) Can you help me, which is the fastest way to get to Gates C from Gates A? Or that was the fastest what I did in March?
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Originally Posted by KMNPD
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Last time I connected in FRA in March 2018. My flight from Budapest stopped at A10, and my following flight to New York was at C14. I used the skytrain (the station is next to A10) from A/Z to B/C. When I arrived to the platform at A, both train carriages door were open. I chose the first one. When I arrived to station Concourse C, only the second carriage doors opened, so I had to go to Terminal 2, and then go back to station B/C. Finally I walked to my gate, and I had to go through a huge passport control and a smaller security control.
If you came from A, you would only be allowed into the first carriage (as seen from the escalator), and that is the carriage you boarded. You would not be allowed into the other carriage as that is the non-Schengen carriage, as you would both illegally exit Schengen and illegally enter airside (second carriage is relatively clean, first is not clean). Are you really sure both carriages were open from the platform?

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In a few weeks I will go to San Juan with Condor, and again I will connect in Frankfurt. My plane from Budapest probably will arrive to A, and I know from the past that my Condor plane will depart from C. But in this case I have only 50 minutes to do this connection. (I did it in the past 2 times by the way) Can you help me, which is the fastest way to get to Gates C from Gates A? Or that was the fastest what I did in March?
Easy, don't board the train on the A platform, but board the train from the Z platform.

After leaving the aircraft, follow signs to Z. Go to the border exit passport control abeam gate A13. Take the escalator up to Z. Then immediately follow signs to B or C. You will board the SkyLine again, but now in the other (second) carriage which will open doors at C. You will have security at C but no passport control.

Note, sometimes (on weekdays?) the train only goes to B. In that case, there is a bus in B to transfer you to C (not sure if that is before or after security). I was in FRA this month and the train went from Z to C without requiring transfer at B, but this was on a weekend day.

Edit: there's a quick boarding pass check (staffed by LH) before the passport control at A13. They may point out that you're going to Z while your BP shows C. Just tell them that you'll take the train. If they see that you know what you're doing, they should let you through.
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Old Dec 21, 2018, 10:34 am
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Thank you very much! I'ill try it
After your answer I'm not sure about the opened doors. Probably I just saw a few people in that carriage as well and I taught that the door is open. My only excuse is that I slept 1 hour because of my early flight on that day.
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Old Dec 23, 2018, 1:01 am
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How do you know if your flight will be AEUW? It's not something I've encountered before. I just booked a DEN-FRA 747 flight with a 1:10 connection to FRA-FCO. Not thrilled as I am well familiar with the usual drill: bus from remote stand, long hike through FRA, skytrain between terminals, and then the horrid security check. Would be great to avoid security arriving from USA.
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You don't know in advance. You see the planned arrival gate in LH app, but it can and does change.

On LH1003 last Friday, it was originally ASW, then the morning of the flight it changed to A11 (hooray) but then by the time we actually flew it changed back to ASW (damn), the change cost me a chance to check out the panorama lounge.
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I'm an Indian citizen traveling from Sao Paulo, Brazil to New Delhi, India via Frankfurt (GRU-FRA-DEL).
I booked my tickets with Air India, but my first flight from Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) to Frankfurt is by LATAM airlines and the second flight from Frankfurt to New Delhi, India (DEL) is by Air India because LATAM airline is the allied partners of Air India.

Both flights will be arriving and departing from the same terminal i.e. Terminal 1 of Frankfurt international airport, and the layover time is 8 hours. During the layover, I will not leave the international transit area, I will only change the boarding gates within Terminal 1 (probably from B2 or C1 to B46).

As I am coming from Brazil (non-Schengen area) and going to India (non-Schengen area), so I want to know if I need a transit visa for that transfer? Because last time when I was going from DEL-FRA-GRU (Air India-Latam airlines) at that time also I did transit within Terminal 1. That time I did not cross the immigration counter. But for this time I don't know whether it will be same or not.
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Old Dec 27, 2018, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by chetan s rp
I'm an Indian citizen traveling from Sao Paulo, Brazil to New Delhi, India via Frankfurt (GRU-FRA-DEL).
I booked my tickets with Air India, but my first flight from Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) to Frankfurt is by LATAM airlines and the second flight from Frankfurt to New Delhi, India (DEL) is by Air India because LATAM airline is the allied partners of Air India.

Both flights will be arriving and departing from the same terminal i.e. Terminal 1 of Frankfurt international airport, and the layover time is 8 hours. During the layover, I will not leave the international transit area, I will only change the boarding gates within Terminal 1 (probably from B2 or C1 to B46).

As I am coming from Brazil (non-Schengen area) and going to India (non-Schengen area), so I want to know if I need a transit visa for that transfer? Because last time when I was going from DEL-FRA-GRU (Air India-Latam airlines) at that time also I did transit within Terminal 1. That time I did not cross the immigration counter. But for this time I don't know whether it will be same or not.
Welcome to FT , chetan s rp

You will not need a Visa for that non Schengen to non Schengen transfer
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by chetan s rp
I'm an Indian citizen traveling from Sao Paulo, Brazil to New Delhi, India via Frankfurt (GRU-FRA-DEL).
I booked my tickets with Air India, but my first flight from Sao Paulo, Brazil (GRU) to Frankfurt is by LATAM airlines and the second flight from Frankfurt to New Delhi, India (DEL) is by Air India because LATAM airline is the allied partners of Air India.

Both flights will be arriving and departing from the same terminal i.e. Terminal 1 of Frankfurt international airport, and the layover time is 8 hours. During the layover, I will not leave the international transit area, I will only change the boarding gates within Terminal 1 (probably from B2 or C1 to B46).

As I am coming from Brazil (non-Schengen area) and going to India (non-Schengen area), so I want to know if I need a transit visa for that transfer? Because last time when I was going from DEL-FRA-GRU (Air India-Latam airlines) at that time also I did transit within Terminal 1. That time I did not cross the immigration counter. But for this time I don't know whether it will be same or not.
I don't think you should rely on an internet discussion board on frequent flying about your visa requirement. However, the information liked below is from a reliable source (German Missions in the United States) and as far as I can see Indian passport holders DO require a transit visa when passing through the international transit area of German airports unless they meet one of the criteria listed.

https://www.germany.info/blob/917514...-list-data.pdf

Linked from Airport Transit in Germany

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Have a 90 minute connection BOS-FRA-LHR coming up in January — BOS-FRA looks like it's consistently been arriving into Z (although with the switch to the 744 not sure if this will hold) and FRA-LHR departs from B. Given what's been going on at FRA security lately would FT wisdom advise taking the Skyline train Z to B or entering Schengen to A and taking the tunnel to B? Non-EU citizen if that makes any difference.
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Have a 90 minute connection BOS-FRA-LHR coming up in January — BOS-FRA looks like it's consistently been arriving into Z (although with the switch to the 744 not sure if this will hold) and FRA-LHR departs from B. Given what's been going on at FRA security lately would FT wisdom advise taking the Skyline train Z to B or entering Schengen to A and taking the tunnel to B? Non-EU citizen if that makes any difference.
Just follow the signs, really on any given day you never know, Z to A passport control can be backed up unbelievably or empty
90 mins ought to be ok.
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Originally Posted by chris63


Just follow the signs, really on any given day you never know, Z to A passport control can be backed up unbelievably or empty
90 mins ought to be ok.
Which signs though — Skyline Z -> B or walking Z -> A -> tunnel -> B?
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But this is something confusing, check:

German Transit Airports

The Federal State of Germany has around 300 active airports spread throughout its whole territory. However, not all of them can be used for transiting. In these five airports in Germany, you can stay at the International Transit Area without a visa:
  • Frankfurt/Main airport (open 24 hours)
  • Munich Airport (open 24 hours)
  • Hamburg Airport (4:30 a.m. – 11:30 p.m. only)
  • Düsseldorf Airport (6:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. only) and if the airline has arranged the transit beforehand with the authorities responsible for cross-border security (the Federal Police)
  • Cologne/Bonn Airport (4:30 a.m. – 11:00 p.m. only)
  • Berlin Airport (06:00 a.m. – 11:00 p.m. only) at Berlin-Tegel, for Air Berlin passengers only.

www.germany-visa.org/airport-transit-visa

I just want to know if I move from gate B2 or C1 towards gate B46, then is it required for me to pass by the immigration?
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Which signs though — Skyline Z -> B or walking Z -> A -> tunnel -> B?
Signs are now dynamic
So depending where you wash up in FRA I would follow them.
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Originally Posted by chetan s rp
But this is something confusing, check:

German Transit Airports

The Federal State of Germany has around 300 active airports spread throughout its whole territory. However, not all of them can be used for transiting. In these five airports in Germany, you can stay at the International Transit Area without a visa:
  • Frankfurt/Main airport (open 24 hours)
  • Munich Airport (open 24 hours)
  • Hamburg Airport (4:30 a.m. – 11:30 p.m. only)
  • Düsseldorf Airport (6:00 a.m. – 9:00 p.m. only) and if the airline has arranged the transit beforehand with the authorities responsible for cross-border security (the Federal Police)
  • Cologne/Bonn Airport (4:30 a.m. – 11:00 p.m. only)
  • Berlin Airport (06:00 a.m. – 11:00 p.m. only) at Berlin-Tegel, for Air Berlin passengers only.

www.germany-visa.org/airport-transit-visa

I just want to know if I move from gate B2 or C1 towards gate B46, then is it required for me to pass by the immigration?
You do not have to go through immigration/passport control if you are connecting from non-Schengen (Brazil) to non-Schengen (India) in Frankfurt.

However, the document you quoted is not from an official source and my reading of the official document I mentioned earlier suggests you do require a transit visa even if you stay in the international transit area unless you meet one of the criteria for exception.

You might like to check for yourself using IATA's website:
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/pas...quirements.htm

This is (similar to) what airline employees use to check if you require a visa to board a flight to certain countries.
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