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FYI for everybody: I was told that the 50% discount on companion tickets is retained
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by christianj: I had just gotten off the phone with M&M USA when I posted that and YES our awards will be the same as those in Europe....ALL WILL BE THE SAME!! Call LH and complain so that they have a record of all US members complaining. This thing was just published this morning so we are some of the first US members to find out about the changes. Thing that really gets me mad is if I had known about this at the beginning of the year I would have started putting the miles on my UA MP account. They were running such a good bonus promo with up to triple miles in the first quarter. I stuck with LH because I didn't want to waste any of my miles so that I wouldn't have to worry about qualifying for SEN this year. Just calculated if I had credited all of my flights this year to UA with the bonus I would have had 46.986 MP miles. With LH I have 36.010 due to the regular bonuses. I am not happy! </font> thanks for the info! i already logged my disappointment with LH http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif by the way, everybody: watch out on the W and S fares (both cheap eco). they now get only half the miles, and worse, are NOT upgradeable at all... oh well, let's see if the op upg generosity significantly declines... by the way, the bmi program really rocks! i wasn't aware of it's beauty... [This message has been edited by Danny (edited Mar 12, 2004).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by attorney28: Funny to see that they made the effort to STILL display a Europe-Hawaii award in their award chart when, according to their interpretation, you cannot get to Hawaii from Europe without using a 3-region-award. Apparently, they do not read Flyertalk attentively enough.</font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Danny: hi christianj, thanks for the info! i already logged my disappointment with LH http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif by the way, everybody: watch out on the W and S fares (both cheap eco). they now get only half the miles, and worse, are NOT upgradeable at all... oh well, let's see if the op upg generosity significantly declines... by the way, the bmi program really rocks! i wasn't aware of it's beauty... [This message has been edited by Danny (edited Mar 12, 2004).]</font> |
Can e-vouchers be used on any fare class? (quote: "You may only use eVouchers to request an Upgrade for certain booking classes, e.g. it is not possible to upgrade from the low fare Economy booking class T." So does that mean any fare class except T, or are there other "certain booking classes". Who writes this stuff? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif
Are status miles (elite qualifying miles) actual flight miles, or do they still include the F/C & exec bonus uplift? If I requalified for SEN in Jan 2004, how long will I have SEN status? "Fair is fair", an interesting phrase to begin with? |
Interpretatio necesse est!
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To all Germans:
I just realized that the miles for intra-german flights will be cut by 50% (500 instead of 1.000) I can't believe that this is true... |
IMO tbe fact that you'll need some 60 German Domestic return trips in T or L for a simple FlySMART award says everything you have to know about the new rules...
However I will earn as many Miles as possible untill July 31 and then spend them on cheap FlySmarts... but I guess, LH has lost a customer in me. BTW: Does anyone how many Miles I will receive on a domestic UK trip (e.g. LHR-GLA) with BMI from August on? 125? |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jobi: IMO tbe fact that you'll need some 60 German Domestic return trips in T or L for a simple FlySMART award says everything you have to know about the new rules... However I will earn as many Miles as possible untill July 31 and then spend them on cheap FlySmarts... but I guess, LH has lost a customer in me. BTW: Does anyone how many Miles I will receive on a domestic UK trip (e.g. LHR-GLA) with BMI from August on? 125? </font> see http://www.miles-and-more.com/LHeCMS...,242831,00.pdf |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by transpac: [B]Can e-vouchers be used on any fare class? (it is not possible to upgrade from the low fare Economy booking class T." So does that mean any fare class except T, or are there other "certain booking classes". Who writes this stuff? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif B]</font> rt upgrade Europe to USA / Africa/ India 100k + buying a ticket exept S and W class " and free business ticket comes for 90k !!! rt upgrade near east 70k + buying a ticket and free business ticket comes for 60k !!! rt upgrade far east 130k + buying a ticket and free business ticket comes for 120k !!! |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by bertheike: [b] Originally posted by transpac: Can e-vouchers be used on any fare class? (it is not possible to upgrade from the low fare Economy booking class T." So does that mean any fare class except T, or are there other "certain booking classes". Who writes this stuff? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif B]</font> Well calculated LUFTHANSA !! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif <IMG SRC="http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ideasmilie.gif"> rt upgrade Europe to USA / Africa/ India 100k + buying a ticket exept S and W class " and free business ticket comes for 90k !!! rt upgrade near east 70k + buying a ticket and free business ticket comes for 60k !!! rt upgrade far east 130k + buying a ticket and free business ticket comes for 120k !!! I can only say back to Math 101 about this ! |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by peter42: That is one of the points were they did not even keep their minimum promise not to change the basic benefits (one of them was that all paid fares were upgradeable - years ago, they tried it with W for about ten month, but had to back up quickly!).</font> For all US M&M members the new upgrade policy and the new applicable miles table is a big slap in the face. Although UA isn't as good as Lufthansa, I can see quite a few M&M members banking their miles immediately into their UA account after they earned their 100k to requalify for SEN status. |
Over at Delta, they started a "Save Sky Miles" initiative.
Are we going to do something about these changes here? |
What a lot to absorb so early in the morning!
The loss of elite bonus on *A will hurt - this was a great point of difference for M&M. The change to upgrade vouchers make them just about worthless. I havent seen anything on the qualification levels - hopefully they are unchanged (or go down)? With a lot of earning and burning of miles coming up both before and after 1 August there is a lot to work out. Thanks for wrecking my weekend http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/rolleyes.gif OTOH there remain some features that are good - eg 2 years qualification. |
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