Originally Posted by FtlAOI
Why don't I think that you are exaggerating a little bit? It's probably because of LH's M&M policy and the steadily changing terms and conditions for everything!
But what about the service for the HON+ members? I mean the service standard is already pretty high, i.e. it is getting difficult for LH still to improve the service... Probably they will imitate Emirates and there is also a car service which is picking you up in the city and bringing you to the airport! And.... |
Originally Posted by roundtheworld
Seriously, this is already in place !!! On invitation at your home station!!!! Only a C 230 but still nice anyway, as you can cut it absolutely short and they guarantee you BP even after cut off time. As soon as you are in the car you are considered checked in. I walk to the counter, dorp my bag and collect my BP (they print them in the morning)...
All fantasies.. You must understand that if there is seven people going with a limo bus from the aircraft is probably HONs with guests/family members. If there were seven HONs it would be natural too because they probably spreading out to intercontinental flights. The domestic/european aircrafts are filled with HONs, but not the intercontinental. Cmon, you know that we HONs are flying between 80-250 flights every year and if there is ~2000 HONs out there you could figure it out by yourselves that there is more than 1 HON present at the airport. Tom |
Originally Posted by Tom Alcatel
Do you really think they would introduce a higher status than HON?
All fantasies.. You must understand that if there is seven people going with a limo bus from the aircraft is probably HONs with guests/family members. If there were seven HONs it would be natural too because they probably spreading out to intercontinental flights. The domestic/european aircrafts are filled with HONs, but not the intercontinental. Cmon, you know that we HONs are flying between 80-250 flights every year and if there is ~2000 HONs out there you could figure it out by yourselves that there is more than 1 HON present at the airport. Tom actually I don't think that here will be something like Hon+. But probably LH will arise the miles to get it. They still did it in a way by not counting UA metal miles for HON status. Cheers totti |
Originally Posted by roundtheworld
Sorry but you got that wrong. Changes of HON Circle miles as of August 1 2006 are:
1) No Z fares count 2) D Fares count only 50% 3) A fares only 50% 4) more then 4 (one per quarter) Z class per year will VOID HON Circle membership 5) Executive bonus back on earned miles, not on distance miles. ^ That would bring me 25.582 miles on a FRA-SFO leg in F, whereas currently I only get 19.898. :( |
The good old days of 375% instead of 325% now.
Remember when a short domestic UA flight in F netted 3750 status miles ? Now it's down to only 1625 miles. |
Originally Posted by Rambuster
The good old days of 375% instead of 325% now.
Remember when a short domestic UA flight in F netted 3750 status miles ? Now it's down to only 1625 miles. |
Originally Posted by totti
Welcome to FT Tom Alcatel,
actually I don't think that here will be something like Hon+. But probably LH will arise the miles to get it. They still did it in a way by not counting UA metal miles for HON status. Cheers totti Thank you Totti, In a way you can sympatize with LH decision not to count UA metal miles because of all the domestic UA flights. The US based HONs are likely to hop on LH metal overseas (atlantic) if they want to remain HONs. The european HONs that travel a lot RTW (me) doesn't like this decision because it takes away the HON miles from the UA flights over the pacific (LAX-HNL-NRT, LAX-NRT, SFO-NRT, ORD-PEK for example). I am now forced to do more expensive and exhausting round-trips (FRA-SFO, FRA-SIN, FRA-JNB in 10 days). After those trips (even if you fly F) you are likely to be home for at least 4 days. Tom |
Originally Posted by Rambuster
The good old days of 375% instead of 325% now.
Remember when a short domestic UA flight in F netted 3750 status miles ? Now it's down to only 1625 miles. And yes, I also made many many 3.750 F miles on a short domestic UA flight. ^ Now the miles are down, but much more worse, UA offers only that bull.... coach on all short flights (They call it express or shuttle, HA!). Which I hate even more, than the famous BUS rides in FRA and which I try to avoid, whenever I can. Sitting lopsided in an aircraft can't be good. Not on a 4hr ride and not on a 30min hop. :mad: |
Originally Posted by totti
As flysurfer still mentioned it will be interesting to see when we'll get over the 8/1/2004 changes. :rolleyes:
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I am now forced to do more expensive and exhausting round-trips (FRA-SFO, FRA-SIN, FRA-JNB in 10 days). After those trips (even if you fly F) you are likely to be home for at least 4 days. Tom It is still your decision which route to fly. Nobody forces you to changes your routings to requalify for HON and to be honest, I would not fly much more expensive routes, because if you are in F anyway on longhauls, you do not need HON to access the FCT and service onboard should be perfect. Also, why not avoid UA across the Pacific, if you can fly on SQ. ;) |
Originally Posted by SleepOverGreenland
Now the miles are down, but much more worse, UA offers only that bull.... coach on all short flights (They call it express or shuttle, HA!). Which I hate even more, than the famous BUS rides in FRA and which I try to avoid, whenever I can. Sitting lopsided in an aircraft can't be good. Not on a 4hr ride and not on a 30min hop. :mad:
cheers HON_Hunter |
Originally Posted by roundtheworld
Seriously, this is already in place !!! On invitation at your home station!!!! Only a C 230 but still nice anyway, as you can cut it absolutely short and they guarantee you BP even after cut off time. As soon as you are in the car you are considered checked in. I walk to the counter, dorp my bag and collect my BP (they print them in the morning)...
cheers HON_Hunter |
Originally Posted by HON_Hunter
Not true! United Express offers F since a few months also on short haul (CR70 or others). I used to complain too, but they seemd to listen and have changed it (experienced it so far on ORD-MEM and MEM-IAD).
cheers HON_Hunter Unless of course you're on a TED flight. |
Originally Posted by HON_Hunter
Not true! United Express offers F since a few months also on short haul (CR70 or others). I used to complain too, but they seemd to listen and have changed it (experienced it so far on ORD-MEM and MEM-IAD).
http://www.united.com/page/article/0...4_explus&pos=4 |
Originally Posted by flamboyant 1
Hi Tom,
It is still your decision which route to fly. Nobody forces you to changes your routings to requalify for HON and to be honest, I would not fly much more expensive routes, because if you are in F anyway on longhauls, you do not need HON to access the FCT and service onboard should be perfect. Also, why not avoid UA across the Pacific, if you can fly on SQ. ;) Yes I know but the thing is that HON is a pretty good status too have when you get to these places (escort trough immigraion and customs) and flying other classes than F. I know that I am not forced to do anything, except when my boss is really in a bad mood. And yes, I have flown the long ones to SIN on SQ. But I have to go to NRT so I can't let NRT go. /Tom |
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