COVID19: vaccination/test requirements for German transit
Apr 15, 2021, 9:02 am
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The OP is a US citizen and the case you mentioned is for Non-Schengen to Non-Schengen countries.
An US citizen could not board an intra-Schengen flight to any country that doesn't allow US citizens.
However, transferring in LHR would work as ATH-LHR is an international flight.
An US citizen could not board an intra-Schengen flight to any country that doesn't allow US citizens.
However, transferring in LHR would work as ATH-LHR is an international flight.
And if so, do you happen to know if most or all "Schengen-hubs" are allowing this?
Apr 15, 2021, 9:07 am
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However, when making a non-Schengen to Schengen transfer, you need to technically enter that country to make that transfer and there is no guarantee that the person who would pass the border with the intention of transferring would take that connecting Schengen flight ( someone could easily use this as a getaway - EU border rules were never based on the honor system ).
Apr 16, 2021, 5:05 pm
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If Greece decides to open itself up to non-Schengen visitors (as it has already announced), "enforcing" the Schengen border at other Schengen-area countries could be as simple as directing inbound aircraft from Greece to a non-Schengen gate and terminal, rather than a Schengen gate and terminal (as was probably the case before the pandemic). The minor inconvenience is that all passengers (EU-citizens, or otherwise) would be shunted through the non-Schengen terminal's C&I. Those that are allowed to enter can enter, and proceed normally. I think this example is applicable to sea routes too (e.g. presumably Italy has both Schengen and non-Schengen facilities for their passenger ports).
Land-border wise... is moot. Whatever kind of border situation Greece had with each of its land-border neighbors before, can continue.
Apr 20, 2021, 12:08 am
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Also new routes from EWR to DBV and KEF were announced, evidently a nod to the fact that these Schengen countries will allow vaccinated tourists to enter 
Apr 20, 2021, 1:15 am
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Let's hope all those countries are not in the "Do not go" list of countries the US wants to announce soon (apparently 80% of all countries in the world)...
Apr 20, 2021, 3:17 am
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I think this won't be as big of a deal as people are making it out to be (logistically), specifically because Greece shares no land borders with any Schengen-area country. (It may end up being a big deal culturally, politically, etc.) This would be a bigger logistical issue if a country like France or Austria were trying to do it.
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If Greece decides to open itself up to non-Schengen visitors (as it has already announced), "enforcing" the Schengen border at other Schengen-area countries could be as simple as directing inbound aircraft from Greece to a non-Schengen gate and terminal, rather than a Schengen gate and terminal (as was probably the case before the pandemic). The minor inconvenience is that all passengers (EU-citizens, or otherwise) would be shunted through the non-Schengen terminal's C&I. Those that are allowed to enter can enter, and proceed normally. I think this example is applicable to sea routes too (e.g. presumably Italy has both Schengen and non-Schengen facilities for their passenger ports).
Land-border wise... is moot. Whatever kind of border situation Greece had with each of its land-border neighbors before, can continue.
Photo from etia.com.
If Greece decides to open itself up to non-Schengen visitors (as it has already announced), "enforcing" the Schengen border at other Schengen-area countries could be as simple as directing inbound aircraft from Greece to a non-Schengen gate and terminal, rather than a Schengen gate and terminal (as was probably the case before the pandemic). The minor inconvenience is that all passengers (EU-citizens, or otherwise) would be shunted through the non-Schengen terminal's C&I. Those that are allowed to enter can enter, and proceed normally. I think this example is applicable to sea routes too (e.g. presumably Italy has both Schengen and non-Schengen facilities for their passenger ports).
Land-border wise... is moot. Whatever kind of border situation Greece had with each of its land-border neighbors before, can continue.
ummm not really. even if they check your passport, schengen to schengen flights are not stamped with any passports.
once you are in schengen you are in schengen, they can't stop you travelling, the Swiss government confirms this so you can easily to ATH-ZRH as a US citizen.
Apr 20, 2021, 9:05 am
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Apr 20, 2021, 9:14 am
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France has implemented their own border restrictions for Schengen flights after some tragic events that happened in Paris and Nice.
This was about 4-5 years ago. Some Schengen flights were randomly pulled to Non-Schengen stands and everyone's passports and documents were thoroughly checked.
This was well before the pandemic and each country set up their own restrictions.
This was about 4-5 years ago. Some Schengen flights were randomly pulled to Non-Schengen stands and everyone's passports and documents were thoroughly checked.
This was well before the pandemic and each country set up their own restrictions.
Apr 20, 2021, 2:17 pm
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ummm not really. even if they check your passport, schengen to schengen flights are not stamped with any passports.
once you are in schengen you are in schengen, they can't stop you travelling, the Swiss government confirms this so you can easily to ATH-ZRH as a US citizen.
once you are in schengen you are in schengen, they can't stop you travelling, the Swiss government confirms this so you can easily to ATH-ZRH as a US citizen.
France has implemented their own border restrictions for Schengen flights after some tragic events that happened in Paris and Nice.
This was about 4-5 years ago. Some Schengen flights were randomly pulled to Non-Schengen stands and everyone's passports and documents were thoroughly checked.
This was well before the pandemic and each country set up their own restrictions.
This was about 4-5 years ago. Some Schengen flights were randomly pulled to Non-Schengen stands and everyone's passports and documents were thoroughly checked.
This was well before the pandemic and each country set up their own restrictions.
Apr 20, 2021, 4:01 pm
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What I am saying is right now you can fly internally in Schengen without an issue even if they check your passport as you originated from a Schengen country! Checking the passport is not the issue, also you can't be stamped twice in schengen, you can only be stamped when leaving schengen and when entering schengen.
Apr 20, 2021, 4:37 pm
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What I am saying is right now you can fly internally in Schengen without an issue even if they check your passport as you originated from a Schengen country! Checking the passport is not the issue, also you can't be stamped twice in schengen, you can only be stamped when leaving schengen and when entering schengen.
An example would be that last year just after COVID started, in April & May we have seen Switzerland restricting travel to Switzerland for only Swiss citizens, residents and those with work permit. Everyone else was denied boarding on Switzerland bound Schengen flights.
Apr 20, 2021, 4:52 pm
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This is not correct.
An example would be that last year just after COVID started, in April & May we have seen Switzerland restricting travel to Switzerland for only Swiss citizens, residents and those with work permit. Everyone else was denied boarding on Switzerland bound Schengen flights.
An example would be that last year just after COVID started, in April & May we have seen Switzerland restricting travel to Switzerland for only Swiss citizens, residents and those with work permit. Everyone else was denied boarding on Switzerland bound Schengen flights.
Right now, you would only be denied boarding if you were trying to fly into Switzerland from outside the Schengen area and are not a Swiss or EU citizen/resident.
If you were flying from lets say Greece to Switzerland with a US passport then it is fine as you are already in the schengen area.