HSaxa

A little background... I am a UA 1K, based in SFO, travel about 50% US domestic, 30% to Europe, 20% to Japan. Given flight patterns and home base UA is my airline of choice.

I am about to embark on a trip to India that will have me exclusively on LH, in C class. I am considering banking the miles from my upcoming trip into a new LH M&M account as opposed to my UA MP account. Having read up on M&M (in this forum an on the LH site) I want to make sure that my mileage accumulation assumptions are correct for my upcoming trip. If you could, please take a look and let me know if I'm incorrect somewhere.

Again this is all in C class and I currently have no status on LH

SFO-MUC 11758 redeemable miles / 11758 Status miles
MUC WAW 1500 / 3000
WAW FRA 1500 / 3000
FRA BOM 8174 / 8174
BOM FRA 8174 / 8174
FRA SFO 11398 / 11398

Assuming the above is correct that would put me at 42504 redeemable miles and 45504 status miles. By the end of the trip I should be an FT. (By comparison, I would be getting 40162 / 26541 if I bank this trip to UA MP)

Is all this correct? Any other advice?

SmilingBoy

I don't get these numbers - shouldn't this be 2000/2000 in both cases?

I haven't checked your other numbers, but you should get twice the distance miles both as award and status miles.

If your numbers are correct, you should be FTL after this, and for all subsequent flights you would get a 25% bonus on all M&M and NA airlines.

SmilingBoy.

HSaxa

Thanks for the reply. I was uncertain about the European segments so 2000 / 2000 is probably correct. As for the other segments, I did just double the base mileage.

Flying Lawyer

Most of it appears to be correct. MUC - WAW and v/v is 2000 miles each. Status miles and redeemable miles are identical. You could make a small sidetrip in Germany and fly this schedule:

SFO-MUC 11758 miles
MUC-FRA 1500 miles
FRA-WAW 2000 miles
WAW-FRA 2000 miles
FRA-BOM 8174 miles
BOM-FRA 8174 miles
FRA-MUC 1500 miles
MUC-SFO 11758 miles + 1468 miles.

Should cost only little extra (taxes) and bring you over the hurdle to FTL before your return flight giving you the executive bonus and you would end up with 48332 miles.

TKG

Not sure if this is actually possible, but it might be worthwhile to ask M&M whether they can comp you status based on your 1K-ness.

totti

Actually I'd say no, it's not worthwhile as it is absolutely unlikely that M&M would do so…

Triple3

Currently 1k is not sufficient for status matching with LH.

A GS might try with his regional LH sales manager - if the latter one has a good day and the former can prove he will have significant business with LH in the near future the GS might be matched to SEN.

HSaxa

The recent threads really have me wondering if I should even post this trip to LH as opposed to UA. From reading this board, it does not sound like I'd gain much from posting this to LH as I am already UA1K / *A Gold, so making it to FTL on LH does not add much, except for diversification in mileage programs (and I understand that redeeming miles on LH is easier)

If I has a good sense that I could make it to HON / 100k status miles on LH this year, then I would go for it, but at this point, I am rather pessimistic that I could achieve another 56,500 status miles on LH.

Is making it to FTL alone worth it?

Flying Lawyer

Well, you would never make to HON, but to SEN (Star G) only. FTL makes sense if you travel in Germany and parts of Europe on cheap Eco tickets, because you get free lounge access in certain locations.

But in the US? It will make sense for you to reach SEN because you would get free access to these lovely RCCs on domestic flights, but that's it.

notsosmart

I thought RCCs are closed to SENs now?

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To the OP: I've asked myself this question a million times too. Most of my *A segments are UA domestic, though most of my longhauls are other carriers in C or F, paid. Because of the enormous bonuses that LH gives for paid premium cabin travel, I have stuck with them, even though it does absolutely nothing for me on UA. (And I was a Sen until this year - still, basically no help on UA).

If you ever fly paid F within the USA on UA you might wish to consider crediting those flights to LH too. That's what I've been doing and I'm slowly accumulating a nice pile. But, like I said, I get no respect from UA.

weero

Yes, F,A,P accumulation into Miles&More is worthwile .. but you will
not get first meal choice as an LH*G .. so it can be tough at times .

HSaxa

Sorry, yes, I meant SEN. I already (I believe) get lounge access as a *A gold. So really it seems like the perks only start if I can get to SEN, and then access lounges here in the US. (But even that seems to be in doubt given nottosmart's post)

Kiwi Flyer

Not AFAIK. The change last year was UA no longer provided automatic E+ for non-UA *G travelling in Y.

cesco.g

Also bear in mind that the extra 26K miles on UA might get you close(r) to an additional 2 SWUs on UA, in case these are incremental miles on top of your first 100K EQMs.

notsosmart

Oh right. That was the change. A major one actually!

Has me considering a NW > UA status match. Wonder what a plat would get? I better ask in the appropriate forum...

My problem is that I don't fly enough to realistically support more than one primary and one secondary program. UA and LH are not attainable for me at the same time. I gotta pick one. Decisions decisions...