The LH shower personell
#16
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Low paid immigrants or refugees who are not fluent in either English or German (maybe even their first ever job in Germany)?
"You won a toof bus"? = "You want a toothbrush"?
"You won a toof bus"? = "You want a toothbrush"?
#17
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In MUC the shower ladies always seemed quite nice. Sometimes I stop to exchange a word or two, but I can’t remember if it was in German or English. FRA I can’t comment, I use that airport a lot less, Gott sei dank.
#18
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Geneva
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While they aren’t fluent, IME their German and English are more than proficient, especially when it concerns basic terms, such as the most important Bad, Douche and Badente. Never had any problem communicating with the staff,. Treat them friendly and they will treat you like a valued customer.
#19
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My experiences are mostly in FCLs but I would say that the shower attendants I come across are almost always incredibly friendly, helpful, and often make a joke or two. In fact, the lady who usually works the showers in the main terminal MUC FCL is one of my favourite LH employees (whether she’s a contractor or not, I don’t know).
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
#20
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My experiences are mostly in FCLs but I would say that the shower attendants I come across are almost always incredibly friendly, helpful, and often make a joke or two. In fact, the lady who usually works the showers in the main terminal MUC FCL is one of my favourite LH employees (whether she’s a contractor or not, I don’t know).
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
Although for me the FCL & FCT Staff at FRA just edge it over MUC
In FRA & MUC their communication skills are just fine & they have the added burden of needing to understand about plastic Ducks 🦆
#21
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As an American who travels abroad quite a bit, I really love the LH lounge attendants. No they aren't totally fluent in English, but never remember having a problem with them communicating in my 25-30 plus times there.
For the staff approaching people in English as opposed to German, I don't know what to say other than it is an international airport and while I'm sure they mean no offense, you can simply replay back in German if wanted. I'm actually half German and I guess look somewhat German so I get some staff addressing me in German occasionally both on board and at the lounges. I'm flattered they would even think I would know a 2nd language)))))). Us Americans are so bad at languages I admit.
For the staff approaching people in English as opposed to German, I don't know what to say other than it is an international airport and while I'm sure they mean no offense, you can simply replay back in German if wanted. I'm actually half German and I guess look somewhat German so I get some staff addressing me in German occasionally both on board and at the lounges. I'm flattered they would even think I would know a 2nd language)))))). Us Americans are so bad at languages I admit.
#22
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I feel a cringe of embarrassment when i read some of the comments in this thread - particularly those making making fun of the way shower and lavatory attendants speak.
Theirs is not a glamorous job, and i doubt that it is at all well paid. They ready the shower and toilet for you and clean up after you have used them. To complain they don't smile enough smacks of folie de grandeur.
I have no complaints at the attitudes displayed.
Theirs is not a glamorous job, and i doubt that it is at all well paid. They ready the shower and toilet for you and clean up after you have used them. To complain they don't smile enough smacks of folie de grandeur.
I have no complaints at the attitudes displayed.
#23
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Flying from YVR I always have a layover in FRA for my connecting flight. Always use the shower to freshen up. Have never encountered rude or unfriendly staff. I have always been greeted with a smile. Am not overly concerned that they don't always speak English, perhaps I should learn to interact with them in their language especially if they are German, why should I expect them to speak English in their own country
#24
Join Date: May 2009
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It's nothing really Germany-related. Job of cleaning ladies, even at an international airport, won't be done by some collegue-education-level people. They're doing their job, and are able to communicate with you. I didn't found them to be friendly either (we're talking about C/SEN lounge staff, not FCL/HON lounges.. for all the HONs here ) but I wouldn't really expect that. Yes, shower staff in, say, HKG, are trained to be more friendly (even though they're paid equally bad I suppose) than their counterparts in Europe, but then I don't want a friendly staff, but a clean (and preferably modern - looking at you, CPH) shower. And as long as they provide me with that, I'll happily ignore their very basic German and/or English skills.
The one point where I REALLY have issues with (and I know quite some members here too) are the third party "bouncers" in front of the C/SEN lounges in FRA/MUC, and basically that LH has now fully outsourced all their staff at their other lounges, to the point where they can't even help you with any ticket issues anymore.
The one point where I REALLY have issues with (and I know quite some members here too) are the third party "bouncers" in front of the C/SEN lounges in FRA/MUC, and basically that LH has now fully outsourced all their staff at their other lounges, to the point where they can't even help you with any ticket issues anymore.
#25
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My experiences are mostly in FCLs but I would say that the shower attendants I come across are almost always incredibly friendly, helpful, and often make a joke or two. In fact, the lady who usually works the showers in the main terminal MUC FCL is one of my favourite LH employees (whether she’s a contractor or not, I don’t know).
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
Some of the other ‘world’s best’ FCLs could learn a thing or two from the LH shower attendants..!
And love they give you more than 1 First Rubber Duckie upon request
#26
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I feel a cringe of embarrassment when i read some of the comments in this thread - particularly those making making fun of the way shower and lavatory attendants speak.
Theirs is not a glamorous job, and i doubt that it is at all well paid. They ready the shower and toilet for you and clean up after you have used them. To complain they don't smile enough smacks of folie de grandeur.
Theirs is not a glamorous job, and i doubt that it is at all well paid. They ready the shower and toilet for you and clean up after you have used them. To complain they don't smile enough smacks of folie de grandeur.
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The shower attendants are probably considered a step above in the hierarchy, but regardless they too perform a vital role well, and with pride. If only other lounges (ahen BA at LHR) were so well cared for...
#27
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Purpose of this post? If it's to point out that low paid workers don't necessarily speak foreign languages very well, I know a highly-paid executive who says "busy-ness sholl" when he actually thinks he's saying "business school".
#28
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I can top that with a fantastically intelligent (and fabulously good looking) Englishman who has ich bin von kopf bis fuss auf liebe eingestellt as his only contribution to German conversation.
#29
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It's refreshing to see that most here are respectful of the lounge personnel who do our dirty work. It's been said that a society will be judged by how it treats its weakest members (attribution disputed).
#30
Join Date: Sep 2016
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I cannot see any disrepectful post in this thread. One should be able to comment on the quality of services, even if provided by lower wage employees.