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Old Apr 23, 2016, 1:37 am
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Unhappy All LH A330 will lose F cabin: MUC in Winter 2016/17, FRA starting Summer 2018

LH is starting to retrofit half their A330 fleet without the F cabin, starting with in D-AIKJ in July 2016. At first they will use them in FRA to swap with A343 aircraft, then they move to MUC and switch a number of destinations to C/E/Y service. This will come together with the introduction of the A359 ex MUC, which also only has a C/E/Y config.

First 'no F' destinations have been loaded into the GDS: http://airlineroute.net/2016/04/23/lh-muclh-16h2/
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
LH is starting to retrofit half their A330 fleet without the F cabin, starting with in D-AIKJ in July 2016. At first they will use them in FRA to swap with A343 aircraft, then they move to MUC and switch a number of destinations to C/E/Y service. This will come together with the introduction of the A359 ex MUC, which also only has a C/E/Y config.

First 'no F' destinations have been loaded into the GDS: http://airlineroute.net/2016/04/23/lh-muclh-16h2/
Whaaaaat? DEN was expected but CLT, ORD, IAD? So pretty much all of my regular destinations... 'Great'
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 2:04 am
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I guess that revenue from F must be declining.

Great effort to re-configure the fleet to new F and then rip F out two years later

If only MUC is affected as of right now, why did LH bother to build a big ne F lounge in T2S (yes, HON, I know...)?

But haven't we seen this before? I remember traveling on a 346 MUC-DEL in 2005 with no F. A couple of years later F was back...

Does anybody know if the 4 seat F configure that SQ has introduced on some 77W aircraft make sense from a commercial perspective? Wouldn't that have been an option for the LH 330 fleet?
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 2:43 am
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I strongly believe that if LH wants to remove F cabin on certain routes, then let them introduce a decent J hard product matching SQ and CX before @:-)
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 4:46 am
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Shade shade shade The loss of F on UA to/from Australia , the loss of widebody LH to/from TLV and now loss LH F Met a LH HON from Duesseldorf in TG F Lounge recently She was so disturbed LH removed LH F from DUS she'd switched to TG and will continue to do so
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 8:10 am
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What airplanes with First are left in MUC? The new A350 coming to MUC is without F too.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 10:29 am
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I am booked on MUC-ORD in first in November. What happens if the plane I am due to fly on has first ripped out?
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 10:58 am
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Did you pay or an award?
Anyway you will get your money back or can choose a different routing....
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 11:07 am
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Not surprised about Denver but ORD and IAD??
At least we'll get one DEN-MUC First flight before the switch... the inaugural DEN-MUC flight in a couple of weeks.
We're already transitioning to AF La Premiere for a lot of European trips but still sad to see the demise of LH First.

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Old Apr 23, 2016, 11:08 am
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It wouldn't be so disappointing if they offered a decent 1 x 2 x 1 configuration in business.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by SFO777
We've already transitioning to AF La Premiere for a lot of European trips
Cash or Miles?
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 11:39 am
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Both. It just depends on pricing between city pairs. There are some great F fares if you aren't starting in CDG.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Germanfflyer
Did you pay or an award?
Anyway you will get your money back or can choose a different routing....
Paid.

Via FRA would be possible I think, if they offer it at no charge. The booking is first basic, so no changes normally possible.
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Old Apr 23, 2016, 3:04 pm
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It wouldn't be so disappointing if they offered a decent 1 x 2 x 1 configuration in business.
agree. their business class s@cks and they are killing F. Crazy.
I guess some routes like LAX will stay as it's always full... I hope.
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Old Apr 24, 2016, 10:34 pm
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So LH F proved to be an overkill on routes where the competition is mostly North American carriers and the homely BA.

Why does not surprise too much.

And to briefly add what OPMs always post when coach shrinks even further: if you want to fly F, pay for F ... and accept some impossible and cryptic routing and transfer times.
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