"Business Class Upgrade" (Cash Upgrade for 90-160 EUR) on regional European flights
#213
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: LON
Programs: LH M&M SEN, Accor Plat
Posts: 83
My booking page shows a dramatic increase in cost for cash upgrades (up from £79 to £120 GBP which is roughly €135) on intra-European flights. £120 is just too much for such upgrades and makes zero sense to me but i'm curious to hear what caused this increase and if anybody else would consider paying this amount?
#214
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
My booking page shows a dramatic increase in cost for cash upgrades (up from £79 to £120 GBP which is roughly €135) on intra-European flights. £120 is just too much for such upgrades and makes zero sense to me but i'm curious to hear what caused this increase and if anybody else would consider paying this amount?
#216
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HKG/ SIN
Posts: 203
Sorry if this is a stupid question to some but I don't usually fly LH:
If I buy a LH PE ticket from HK-MUC-LIS and return (all on LH metal), how do I know that I can upgrade the short leg MUC-LIS before I purchase the ticket (I know how to find this out after the purchase)?
I will only buy the ticket if I know for sure that I can upgrade the short leg to business because this is quite important for me (understand many here will disagree but this is my preference). I am ok with the price for the cash upgrade but just want to make 100% sure that this can be done before I buy the whole ticket. The LH website says: ' Availability in the relevant higher upgrade booking class'. I presume this means as long as any business class ticket is currently for sale, I should be good? Or do I need to make sure a specific booking class is available? Is it P or any other? Also, how do I check this (I am looking at MUC-LIS on April 26 and LIS-MUC on May 4). I have expertflyer but just need to know what to search for.
Thanks in advance!
If I buy a LH PE ticket from HK-MUC-LIS and return (all on LH metal), how do I know that I can upgrade the short leg MUC-LIS before I purchase the ticket (I know how to find this out after the purchase)?
I will only buy the ticket if I know for sure that I can upgrade the short leg to business because this is quite important for me (understand many here will disagree but this is my preference). I am ok with the price for the cash upgrade but just want to make 100% sure that this can be done before I buy the whole ticket. The LH website says: ' Availability in the relevant higher upgrade booking class'. I presume this means as long as any business class ticket is currently for sale, I should be good? Or do I need to make sure a specific booking class is available? Is it P or any other? Also, how do I check this (I am looking at MUC-LIS on April 26 and LIS-MUC on May 4). I have expertflyer but just need to know what to search for.
Thanks in advance!
#217
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
Programs: LH SEN** HH Diamond
Posts: 29,514
Sorry if this is a stupid question to some but I don't usually fly LH:
If I buy a LH PE ticket from HK-MUC-LIS and return (all on LH metal), how do I know that I can upgrade the short leg MUC-LIS before I purchase the ticket (I know how to find this out after the purchase)?
I will only buy the ticket if I know for sure that I can upgrade the short leg to business because this is quite important for me (understand many here will disagree but this is my preference). I am ok with the price for the cash upgrade but just want to make 100% sure that this can be done before I buy the whole ticket. The LH website says: ' Availability in the relevant higher upgrade booking class'. I presume this means as long as any business class ticket is currently for sale, I should be good? Or do I need to make sure a specific booking class is available? Is it P or any other? Also, how do I check this (I am looking at MUC-LIS on April 26 and LIS-MUC on May 4). I have expertflyer but just need to know what to search for.
Thanks in advance!
If I buy a LH PE ticket from HK-MUC-LIS and return (all on LH metal), how do I know that I can upgrade the short leg MUC-LIS before I purchase the ticket (I know how to find this out after the purchase)?
I will only buy the ticket if I know for sure that I can upgrade the short leg to business because this is quite important for me (understand many here will disagree but this is my preference). I am ok with the price for the cash upgrade but just want to make 100% sure that this can be done before I buy the whole ticket. The LH website says: ' Availability in the relevant higher upgrade booking class'. I presume this means as long as any business class ticket is currently for sale, I should be good? Or do I need to make sure a specific booking class is available? Is it P or any other? Also, how do I check this (I am looking at MUC-LIS on April 26 and LIS-MUC on May 4). I have expertflyer but just need to know what to search for.
Thanks in advance!
They might treat passengers connecting from PE differently and there's no harm in choosing a flight with a light business load but I don't believe you can be 100% certain you will be offered a cash upgrade before purchasing a ticket or even as soon as you purchase one.
#218
Join Date: May 2017
Location: LON, HKG, TYO
Programs: OZ *G, CX Silver, BA Blue
Posts: 27
Cash upgrade with NH stock, miles credit to OZ?
I may have missed some important posts on this thread...
Have a HKG-MUC-LHR on LH metal and flight number but ticketed on NH stock (205- etix). Decided to online cash up to Y+ as company paid for original ticket fare.
Now on LH.com, my cabin and booking classes are 'premium economy' and N class respectively. However on NH's website, I am still listed as economy and my etix receipt did not get re-issued, hence it is still showing economy W class on my 205 etix.
Question:
When I credit the miles for this HKG-MUC flight into OZ FFP, do I get miles according to W or N class? I suppose if LH is the one who issues the boarding pass and communicates with OZ at the end of the flight then the 'true' and 'reflected' fare class will be N?
Thanks for any help in advance!
Have a HKG-MUC-LHR on LH metal and flight number but ticketed on NH stock (205- etix). Decided to online cash up to Y+ as company paid for original ticket fare.
Now on LH.com, my cabin and booking classes are 'premium economy' and N class respectively. However on NH's website, I am still listed as economy and my etix receipt did not get re-issued, hence it is still showing economy W class on my 205 etix.
Question:
When I credit the miles for this HKG-MUC flight into OZ FFP, do I get miles according to W or N class? I suppose if LH is the one who issues the boarding pass and communicates with OZ at the end of the flight then the 'true' and 'reflected' fare class will be N?
Thanks for any help in advance!
Last edited by Victor DSCH; Mar 19, 2018 at 3:47 pm
#219
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: CH
Programs: LX SEN
Posts: 899
LH upgrade for a fixed price from Y to P
Hi all,
I booked a fixed price upgrade on a short haul Y leg that got converted into P, yielding less status miles. I believed that upgrades from Y ended in Z or C, but I cannot find the chart anymore on LH website. Does anyone have a clue?
Thanks!
I booked a fixed price upgrade on a short haul Y leg that got converted into P, yielding less status miles. I believed that upgrades from Y ended in Z or C, but I cannot find the chart anymore on LH website. Does anyone have a clue?
Thanks!
#220
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,050
I remember a post from oliver2002 explaining what you mentioned but in my experience, the resulting fare code depends(probably not exclusively) in the cost of the upgrade.
#221
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between DM464 and DM463 on the NAPSA26 RNAV TRANS in EDDM
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Posts: 1,731
I remember that back in the days there was a translation table showing the old economy booking class and the corresponding upgrade booking class. Either I am too stupid to find it on the LH homepage or it is no longer available. Does anyone have an idea how the booking classes are mapped in case of an upgrade?
Thx,
cas_de
Thx,
cas_de
#223
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, M&M, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,223
Going back to last post, anyone found the chart or knows if it's possible to check to what fare code upgrade will book? Currently have Y eco shorthaul and can upgrade for £40 to business but don't know to which code it will book. If it goes to P, as suggested here, it will earn me fewer miles than current Y. I'm going to credit miles to United, as LH would give me peanuts. The only benefits I see, is getting access to LH lounge at LHR T2 and small meal on a plane to MUC. I can get access to non-airline lounge for £15, so probably not worth paying £40 to upgrade and get fewer miles.
#225
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NUE,MUC,INN,FDH
Programs: QF LTG, LH (SEN*** till 02/26), AF, AA, AB-G†
Posts: 2,076
Not anymore with the new system. It can change in all Business Booking-Classes from P to J. You only will find out after booking and paying. I had K tickets that ended in D and B tickets that ended in P. For now it is a lottery! You may look in the availability of Business booking classes, to have an idea in which booking class you may end.