Nov 22, 2013, 6:02 am
Last edit by: eefor jfp
LH since 2008
First:
"D" de Devaux Brut oder "Rare" Piper-Heidsieck
Heidsieck Monopole Blue Top
2010 Laurent Perrier Brut, (oder Perrier Jouet Grand Brut)
Louis Roederer Brut Millésimé
2011 : Champagne Louis de Sacy Grand Cru Brut
2010 & 2011: 2000 Champagne Laurent-Perrier Millésimé
2012: "D" de Devaux Brut und Laurent Perrier Brut
2013 occassionally 1999 Cuvee Louise, Champagne Pommery
May 2013 (revamp F service) : Taittinger Grand Cru Brut Prelude
September 2013: 2005 Comtes de Champagne Taittinger or Champagne Alfred Gratien
April 2014: 1995 Blanc des Millenaires Champagne, Charles Heidsieck,
April 2015: 2007 Champagne Taittinger Brut Millésimé, Champagne Taittinger
May 2015: 2007 Vintage Brut, Champagne Louis Roederer
May 2015: 1999 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
August 2015: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
June 2016: 2007 Taittinger Millésime
July 2016: 2002 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
December 2016: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
March 2017: 1998 Cuvée des Enchanteleurs, Champagne Henriot, Frankreich
June 2017: 2003 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
July 2017: Cuvée Grand Siècle, Champagne Laurent-Perrier, Frankreich
August 2017: Taittinger Comtes de Champagne Brut Rose 2006
September 2017: Alfred Gratien Cuvée Paradis
Novenber 2017: 2007 Taittinger Brut Millésimé
February & March 2018: Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery 2003 (actually one flight was 2002 though menu shows 2003)
May 2018: 1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires
June 2018: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
September 2018: Jahrgangschampagner Cuvée Louise, Pommery
...
July 2019: Henriot 2000; Laurent Perrier Alexandra Rose 2004; Laurent Perrier Grand Siecle
...
January 2020: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Henriot 2000
February 2020: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Henriot 2006
October 2021: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Laurent Perrier Alexandra Rose 2004 (on the wine card but not stocked; replaced with Laurent Perrier Grand Siecle)
Business:
Jacquart Brut Mosaique
Piper Heidsieck Brut
seit mai 2013 Champagne Duval Leroy Brut
May 2014: Champagne de Castelnau Brut Réserve, Frankreich
LH Group:
Austrian: Duval-Leroy Fleur de Champagne Brut
Brussels: Laurent Perrier Brut
Swiss: Laurent-Perrier Grand Siècle (First)
Others:
TG & SQ Dom 99
NH Krug
JL Champagne Salon
First:
"D" de Devaux Brut oder "Rare" Piper-Heidsieck
Heidsieck Monopole Blue Top
2010 Laurent Perrier Brut, (oder Perrier Jouet Grand Brut)
Louis Roederer Brut Millésimé
2011 : Champagne Louis de Sacy Grand Cru Brut
2010 & 2011: 2000 Champagne Laurent-Perrier Millésimé
2012: "D" de Devaux Brut und Laurent Perrier Brut
2013 occassionally 1999 Cuvee Louise, Champagne Pommery
May 2013 (revamp F service) : Taittinger Grand Cru Brut Prelude
September 2013: 2005 Comtes de Champagne Taittinger or Champagne Alfred Gratien
April 2014: 1995 Blanc des Millenaires Champagne, Charles Heidsieck,
April 2015: 2007 Champagne Taittinger Brut Millésimé, Champagne Taittinger
May 2015: 2007 Vintage Brut, Champagne Louis Roederer
May 2015: 1999 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
August 2015: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
June 2016: 2007 Taittinger Millésime
July 2016: 2002 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
December 2016: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
March 2017: 1998 Cuvée des Enchanteleurs, Champagne Henriot, Frankreich
June 2017: 2003 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery
July 2017: Cuvée Grand Siècle, Champagne Laurent-Perrier, Frankreich
August 2017: Taittinger Comtes de Champagne Brut Rose 2006
September 2017: Alfred Gratien Cuvée Paradis
Novenber 2017: 2007 Taittinger Brut Millésimé
February & March 2018: Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery 2003 (actually one flight was 2002 though menu shows 2003)
May 2018: 1995 Charles Heidsieck Blanc des Millénaires
June 2018: Laurent-Perrier Cuvée Grand Siècle
September 2018: Jahrgangschampagner Cuvée Louise, Pommery
...
July 2019: Henriot 2000; Laurent Perrier Alexandra Rose 2004; Laurent Perrier Grand Siecle
...
January 2020: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Henriot 2000
February 2020: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Henriot 2006
October 2021: 2004 Cuvée Louise, Champagne Pommery, Laurent Perrier Alexandra Rose 2004 (on the wine card but not stocked; replaced with Laurent Perrier Grand Siecle)
Business:
Jacquart Brut Mosaique
Piper Heidsieck Brut
seit mai 2013 Champagne Duval Leroy Brut
May 2014: Champagne de Castelnau Brut Réserve, Frankreich
LH Group:
Austrian: Duval-Leroy Fleur de Champagne Brut
Brussels: Laurent Perrier Brut
Swiss: Laurent-Perrier Grand Siècle (First)
Others:
TG & SQ Dom 99
NH Krug
JL Champagne Salon
Wine & Champagne in Lufthansa First?
Aug 10, 2013, 6:11 pm
#16
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I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
Aug 10, 2013, 6:46 pm
#17
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Location: Scottsdale
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Who flies to eat or drink? Being safe, being on time and being able to sleep well is all i care. By spending $200 in a restaurant I can get better food and wine than any airline is able to serve in the skies.
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
The whole philosophy was that this is how the ultra-rich lived at home, and they expected the same when they traveled.
With jets crossing the ocean at the speed of sound, the whole experience has been condensed into less than a dozen hours. The cost of a F ticket today is about the same as first class passage on an ocean liner almost a hundred years ago - adjusted for inflation.
Is it too much to ask for an airline to serve a wine commensurate with a fine meal at a nice restaurant?
Aug 10, 2013, 8:42 pm
#18
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You're missing the point. First Class began on ocean liners and pampered passengers with the best food and drink money could buy.
The whole philosophy was that this is how the ultra-rich lived at home, and they expected the same when they traveled.
With jets crossing the ocean at the speed of sound, the whole experience has been condensed into less than a dozen hours. The cost of a F ticket today is about the same as first class passage on an ocean liner almost a hundred years ago - adjusted for inflation.
Is it too much to ask for an airline to serve a wine commensurate with a fine meal at a nice restaurant?
The whole philosophy was that this is how the ultra-rich lived at home, and they expected the same when they traveled.
With jets crossing the ocean at the speed of sound, the whole experience has been condensed into less than a dozen hours. The cost of a F ticket today is about the same as first class passage on an ocean liner almost a hundred years ago - adjusted for inflation.
Is it too much to ask for an airline to serve a wine commensurate with a fine meal at a nice restaurant?
Aug 10, 2013, 9:01 pm
#19
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: IAH and HAM
Programs: LH Sen, PPS, FB Platinum, Enrich Silver, SPG Plat
Posts: 1,496
You're missing the point. First Class began on ocean liners and pampered passengers with the best food and drink money could buy.
The whole philosophy was that this is how the ultra-rich lived at home, and they expected the same when they traveled.
With jets crossing the ocean at the speed of sound, the whole experience has been condensed into less than a dozen hours. The cost of a F ticket today is about the same as first class passage on an ocean liner almost a hundred years ago - adjusted for inflation.
Is it too much to ask for an airline to serve a wine commensurate with a fine meal at a nice restaurant?
The whole philosophy was that this is how the ultra-rich lived at home, and they expected the same when they traveled.
With jets crossing the ocean at the speed of sound, the whole experience has been condensed into less than a dozen hours. The cost of a F ticket today is about the same as first class passage on an ocean liner almost a hundred years ago - adjusted for inflation.
Is it too much to ask for an airline to serve a wine commensurate with a fine meal at a nice restaurant?
S
Aug 11, 2013, 12:10 am
#20
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,813
Since it is only 12 hours or so I am much less interested in wine and dine, than I would be on a 7 day journey on a ocean liner. I pay the money to get from A to be with as little hassle as possible, not to eat and drink. Given the conditions on a plane (low humidity and air pressure, lack of decent wine glasses etc), wine will anyhow never taste as good as on the ground (or on an ocean liner for that matter). And reheating prefabricated food will never result in a memorable dining experience.
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Aug 11, 2013, 5:03 am
#21
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Aug 11, 2013, 6:40 am
#22
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I actually like the UA First seats. Their linen sucks however and the fact that you do not get a PJ is strange for F. However I aleays carry my own (LH F) PJ....
S
Aug 11, 2013, 11:33 pm
#24
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, SQ PPS Solitaire
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Who flies to eat or drink? Being safe, being on time and being able to sleep well is all i care. By spending $200 in a restaurant I can get better food and wine than any airline is able to serve in the skies.
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
And while I agree that most people will just sleep, I agree with Chris63: I cannot put cheap stuff (and I mean cheap and not inexpensive) like Smirnoff Red in First Class. Lufthansa in May realized that and upgraded the beverages significantly. Very disappointing to see that they are going cheap again.
Aug 11, 2013, 11:38 pm
#25
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Aug 12, 2013, 4:20 am
#26
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Who flies to eat or drink? Being safe, being on time and being able to sleep well is all i care. By spending $200 in a restaurant I can get better food and wine than any airline is able to serve in the skies.
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
I do not understand al the fuss about the catering on planes. On 80% of my flights I consume nothing but still water.
S
& you never heard of the scandals relating to certain famous brands of bottled water ? Issues you don't have with Champagne I certainly am interested in dining in First Class on flight of 12 hours & more, do you expect me to fast ?
I also expect Lufthansa to provide quality food & beverage on my First Class flights considering how much the tickets cost !
Currently their 'penny pinching' in F is unacceptable & not what I experience with LX, TG, EK & SQ
Aug 12, 2013, 4:24 am
#27
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The current F Champagne, Alfred Gratien, IMHO does not taste good in the air or on the ground, what is undisputable is that it is cheap
Aug 13, 2013, 5:55 am
#28
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: IAH and HAM
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I certainly am interested in dining in First Class on flight of 12 hours & more, do you expect me to fast ?
I also expect Lufthansa to provide quality food & beverage on my First Class flights considering how much the tickets cost !
Currently their 'penny pinching' in F is unacceptable & not what I experience with LX, TG, EK & SQ
S
Aug 13, 2013, 6:21 am
#29
Join Date: May 2004
Programs: BA blue, LH Senator, KQ (FB) gold
Posts: 8,215
Better for LH to serve farmed caviar than to contribute to the extinction of a species.
Aug 13, 2013, 3:51 pm
#30
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: hamburg
Posts: 1,390
man, you just don't get it...
Of course you can eat, I am just surprised that anybody believes that there could be truly good food 30,000 feet above the ground. Given the limitations of the kitchens in the sky and your taste buds, it will always be a disappointment for people who expect a gourmet meal. You can eat to fill your stomach, taht's about it. I have had my fair share of F flights on many different airlines and there are very few memorable meals. (Lufthansa serving Spargel paired with a nice Sauvigon Blanc is one of them).
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that's rubbish and repeating it again and again will not make this silly idea turn into a pearl of wisdom.
