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blitzen May 13, 2023 8:13 am

Hi,

i am trying to figure out if 1h 40min is possible between arriving from Frankfurt on Condor at 5:20pm (Global Entry / only carry on / business) and decorating at 7 on AA to Phoenix.
Could be impossible or doable …
Any input on typical terminals etc

TWA884 May 13, 2023 10:58 am


Originally Posted by blitzen (Post 35246814)
Hi,

i am trying to figure out if 1h 40min is possible between arriving from Frankfurt on Condor at 5:20pm (Global Entry / only carry on / business) and decorating at 7 on AA to Phoenix.
Could be impossible or doable …
Any input on typical terminals etc

It should not be a problem. With Global Entry and carry-on bags only, when arriving on international flights, I have routinely gotten from plane to curb at the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) at LAX in 10 - 12 minutes. I don't know which gates Condor uses; if your flight arrives at the West Gates concourse, you should probably add 15 minutes for the walk from the gate to the immigration and customs facility.

AA mainline flights depart from Terminals 4, 5 and TBIT. T4 is a five minutes walk from the exit from the customs hall, T5 is another five minutes.

blitzen May 13, 2023 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 35247129)
It should not be a problem. With Global Entry and carry-on bags only, when arriving on international flights, I have routinely gotten from plane to curb at the Tom Bradley International Terminal (TBIT) at LAX in 10 - 12 minutes. I don't know which gates Condor uses; if your flight arrives at the West Gates concourse, you should probably add 15 minutes for the walk from the gate to the immigration and customs facility.

AA mainline flights depart from Terminals 4, 5 and TBIT. T4 is a five minutes walk from the exit from the customs hall, T5 is another five minutes.

Any security I need to go through? Or can I stay airside?

TWA884 May 13, 2023 2:37 pm


Originally Posted by blitzen (Post 35247434)
Any security I need to go through? Or can I stay airside?

When arriving in the United States on an international flight and going through immigration and customs inspections at the first port of entry, one always has exit landside and pass through TSA security before reentering the secure airside areas of the airport. TBIT, T4 and T5 are all connected airside; thus, once you have cleared security at any of those terminals, you can go between any of them without having to reclear a security. There is a map in the wikipost showing how to go between the terminals while staying airside.

blitzen May 13, 2023 5:36 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 35247512)
When arriving in the United States on an international flight and going through immigration and customs inspections at the first port of entry, one always has exit landside and pass through TSA security before reentering the secure airside areas of the airport. TBIT, T4 and T5 are all connected airside; thus, once you have cleared security at any of those terminals, you can go between any of them without having to reclear a security. There is a map in the wikipost showing how to go between the terminals while staying airside.

Thanks! Traveling internationally at least once a year I never noticed that I could not avoid a security check when connecting…. Guess I was not paying too much attention.

Dutchy89 May 18, 2023 10:50 am

Planning a trip for february next year to Honolulu.
Arriving at 11:30AM at TBIT on a KLM flight and 2 hours and 15 minutes later, we have our connecting flight with Delta to Honolulu in T3. What do you guys think. Is this enough time ?

TWA884 May 18, 2023 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by Dutchy89 (Post 35260374)
Planning a trip for february next year to Honolulu.
Arriving at 11:30AM at TBIT on a KLM flight and 2 hours and 15 minutes later, we have our connecting flight with Delta to Honolulu in T3. What do you guys think. Is this enough time ?

Depends.

One ticket/PNR or separate? Checked luggage? Citizenship/passport? Global Entry?

Dutchy89 May 18, 2023 12:36 pm

Everything on one ticket, checked luggage and we are from the EU.

TWA884 May 18, 2023 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by Dutchy89 (Post 35260640)
Everything on one ticket, checked luggage and we are from the EU.

Dutch, German and Swiss citizens are eligible for Global Entry membership.

Your connection meets the international to domestic MCT at LAX, however, it is a bit tight for my taste. Should you miss your Delta flight to HNL, there should be at least one later DL flight to HNL that day.

HIFlya May 18, 2023 1:01 pm

Sorry not a connection question, but my family of four with 2 checked bags and a checked car seat bag and carry-on bags have a 7:15 AM Alaska Airlines flight to HNL. We are going to be staying at the HR LAX the night before departure. Would it be OK for us to arrive at the AS check-in area around 6:00 AM? We all have Pre-Check so that might help with the TSA lines. And anyone have any datapoint on how long the HR LAX shuttle takes to get from the hotel to Terminal 6?

bzcat May 18, 2023 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by Dutchy89 (Post 35260640)
Everything on one ticket, checked luggage and we are from the EU.

I would go for this connection since you are on the same ticket. If you go thru the normal immigration line for visitors, you should be able to clear immigration in about 45 min, maybe less. Last time I flew AMS-LAX on KL, I did not see them handing out connection pass which would let you use the shorter line at immigration. But if they do, grab one and it should save you some time. The big unknown is luggage which could take a while to show up at the belt. But once you have your luggage, you can exit custom and turn right to recheck your bags (make sure they tag your bags to HNL when checking in at AMS). From there, it is a short 5 min walk to T3 to clear security again.


Originally Posted by HIFlya (Post 35260706)
Sorry not a connection question, but my family of four with 2 checked bags and a checked car seat bag and carry-on bags have a 7:15 AM Alaska Airlines flight to HNL. We are going to be staying at the HR LAX the night before departure. Would it be OK for us to arrive at the AS check-in area around 6:00 AM? We all have Pre-Check so that might help with the TSA lines. And anyone have any datapoint on how long the HR LAX shuttle takes to get from the hotel to Terminal 6?

Is HR supposed to be Hyatt Regency? If the shuttle is going directly to T6, I would budget 10-15 min. If it is making the rounds from T1 all the way to T6, I would budget at least 30 min for the shuttle ride. I would recommend walking from Hyatt Regency to T6 (about 15 min) but I realize you have kids and car seats... that maybe too much.

HIFlya May 18, 2023 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by bzcat (Post 35261210)
I would go for this connection since you are on the same ticket. If you go thru the normal immigration line for visitors, you should be able to clear immigration in about 45 min, maybe less. Last time I flew AMS-LAX on KL, I did not see them handing out connection pass which would let you use the shorter line at immigration. But if they do, grab one and it should save you some time. The big unknown is luggage which could take a while to show up at the belt. But once you have your luggage, you can exit custom and turn right to recheck your bags (make sure they tag your bags to HNL when checking in at AMS). From there, it is a short 5 min walk to T3 to clear security again.



Is HR supposed to be Hyatt Regency? If the shuttle is going directly to T6, I would budget 10-15 min. If it is making the rounds from T1 all the way to T6, I would budget at least 30 min for the shuttle ride. I would recommend walking from Hyatt Regency to T6 (about 15 min) but I realize you have kids and car seats... that maybe too much.

Yup, HR is the Hyatt Regency, thanks for the information. Yikes, based on where T6 is located, I am thinking that the shuttle goes T1 first and then all the way around because it has to go in a counter-clockwise direction? The ride taking 30 minutes is definitely a bummer. Maybe I will have my wife and kids take the shuttle, while I walk to the kiosks and print out the check-in luggage tags so everything will be ready for them when they get off the shuttle. How are the TSA lines in T6 at like 6 in the morning?

TWA884 May 18, 2023 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by HIFlya (Post 35261238)
How are the TSA lines in T6 at like 6 in the morning?

With PreCheck, it should not take longer than five minutes, ten at the most.

HIFlya May 18, 2023 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 35261474)
With PreCheck, it should not take longer than five minutes, ten at the most.

That is GREAT to hear. And we had to spring for the cash in Premium to get us all seated together, so hopefully this will allow us to catch up on some Zs on the way home.

Kchao1213 Jun 1, 2023 6:12 am

Hi all - how unrealistic would it be to attempt a 90 minute connection from TBIT to T3 on separate tickets? Hoping to arrive in TBIT via SQ at 12:50pm and catch a domestic connection in T3 via DL at 2:20pm. We’ll have carry on luggage only, Global Entry, Clear, and TSA Pre.

From my understanding, we’ll need to clear immigration, exit security, walk to the adjacent T3 landside, and re-enter security - is that correct? Historically, I’ve been comfortable with tight connections but is this one too ambitious? Thanks all!


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