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MANman May 16, 2013 2:40 am

There is a baby grand piano located next to the library, below the museum.
If you have the skill, you are invited to play it.

Symmetre May 21, 2013 11:27 am

Okay, I'll bite. Schengen area? What does 'Schengen' mean?

stimpy May 21, 2013 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by Symmetre (Post 20787681)
Okay, I'll bite. Schengen area? What does 'Schengen' mean?

Google is your friend. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area

Airports in the Schengen area are divided in two for immigration purposes.

KLflyerRalph May 21, 2013 1:59 pm


Originally Posted by Symmetre (Post 20787681)
Okay, I'll bite. Schengen area? What does 'Schengen' mean?

Schengen flights are international but have no passport control. Be aware Schengen countries are not entirely equal to EU countries.

PaulRO May 22, 2013 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by Symmetre (Post 20787681)
Okay, I'll bite. Schengen area? What does 'Schengen' mean?

May I add, regarding Schiphol (AMS):
The terminal building is divided into three 'halls'.

Hall 1 is for flights to countries within the Schengen area.
This encompasses flights from Pier B and Pier C.
It has most of the usual facilities, including a KL lounge. No hotel, or library, or art gallery, mind.
There is normally no immigration control within Hall 1. However, in the event of random checks, one should be carrying an ID, and a passport is normally the acceptable ID. Residents of the Schengen area tend to be allowed a national ID card, where this exists.

Halls 2 and 3 are for flights to outside the Schengen area.
They encompass Piers D E F G and H.

However, Pier D is sometimes also used for flights to the Schengen area. For this purpose, it has been (re-)built on two levels, which allows it to function in 'dual' mode, for both Schengen and non-Schengen flights.
Someone more knowledgeable on Pier D's split functionality is welcome to add here!

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For historians and nostalgians, the original stump of Pier D, the first 150m, before it bifurcates left and right, is the (site of) the original sole pier of Schiphol.
One arrived, went downstairs to immigration and baggage, and the sole arrival hall. Underneath this and the car park outside was a set of spaces for railway lines and platforms. The railway came later, but was planned for at the outset - those planners must have had their visions in the mid-50s.!
Not long now, and it will be time to celebrate the 100th century of the original plans for this new Schiphol, to replace the initial sheds over in what is now Schiphol-Oost. What a novel idea! I hope SPL management will invite me to the party!

And on the departure level upstairs, one passed passports, down three or four steps, and strode straight ahead down the pier to one's gate. That differential in height is still there.
FlyerTalk came later.

johan rebel May 24, 2013 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by PaulRO (Post 20796236)
For historians and nostalgians.

I'll happily confess that I belong to the latter category. Yes, I remember what it used to be like. And what Schiphol Oost used to be like.

Johan

lycidas Dec 16, 2014 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by TrayflowInUK (Post 10228250)
Airline lounges, plagiarised directly from www.schiphol.nl.

Lounge 21: Menzies
AGIP
Airsavings
Alitalia
Carlson Wagonlit
Club Med
Diners club
Finnair
Iberia
Lounge Pass
OAD
Priority Pass
Swiss International Air Lines
VLM Airlines
Wexas

Can anyone confirm whether flying Iberia Economy with OW Sapphire status (still) allows access into the Schengen Menzies lounge?

Apologies for the OW-related question.

johan rebel Dec 17, 2014 2:40 am


Originally Posted by lycidas (Post 24007457)
Can anyone confirm whether flying Iberia Economy with OW Sapphire status (still) allows access into the Schengen Menzies lounge?

I cannot answer your question, but I can tell you that the Menzies lounge is nothing to get excited about.

Johan

troje Dec 20, 2014 6:19 am

Dentist waiting area style. Lounge is too much qualification.

johan rebel Dec 20, 2014 8:03 am


Originally Posted by troje (Post 24027718)
Dentist waiting area style. Lounge is too much qualification.

:D

Hey! My dentist's waiting area is much smaller, but also much nicer!

Johan

troje Dec 20, 2014 8:45 am

:D

Lounge dragon vs. Tandarts assistente is not a fair battle ;)

Another user name to remember Dec 23, 2014 8:39 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 24010338)
I cannot answer your question, but I can tell you that the Menzies lounge is nothing to get excited about.

Did have nice beer last week, albeit a wheat beer in December is a bit strange. Took me 10 seconds to get the beer into a glass, 15 seconds to finish it and 5 seconds to walk away again. Decided to wait somewhere else, what a dump. Makes the KLM lounge looks good...

johan rebel Dec 24, 2014 5:06 am


Originally Posted by Another user name to remember (Post 24041710)
Decided to wait somewhere else, what a dump. Makes the KLM lounge looks good...

Isn't is amazing that many legacy carrier and third party lounges, supposedly a top tier frequent flyer perk, have become little better than railroad waiting rooms serving state penitentiary fare?

Here again the GCC carriers are showing the way, which does not prevent the European competition from continuing the race to the bottom.

Johan

troje Dec 24, 2014 6:42 am

Schiphol being a Skyteam bastion is completely given up by Star Alliance?

stimpy Dec 24, 2014 8:49 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 24046045)
Here again the GCC carriers are showing the way, which does not prevent the European competition from continuing the race to the bottom.

Where is there a nice GCC carrier lounge in AMS? Or anywhere in continental Europe? Or anywhere in the world where they only have one or two daily flights? They use the same cheap Menzies type lounges as everyone else. I recall flying EK F out of HKG where you see a lot of excellent lounges. EK has their own lounge there, but nothing separate for first class. Nor is it anything to write home about.


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