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pnb Jul 20, 2004 11:47 am

FD miles on AF codeshare
 
Has anybody been able to collect FD miles for an AF codeshare flight (AF prefix) operated by another airline?

Not possible per KLM's website, but I got a different answer from AF.

pnb Jul 22, 2004 5:34 am

No problem for AF to add a KL FD# on a CDG-LJU paper ticket even if flights are operated by JP (Adria).

Let's see if the miles post...

NoWindowSeat Jul 26, 2004 1:03 pm

I would also be interested to know some details about this....I flew AF codeshare on AY (HEL-CDG) in June/b and Finnair cladly put my FD number on the reservation but no miles have posted as of today...

NickB Jul 26, 2004 1:14 pm

The fact that the number can be entered means nothing. I have also had a check-in agent entering my AF number on a BE-coded BHX-BHD BE flight and, surprise surprise, points never posted.

apoivre Jul 26, 2004 1:32 pm

Same for a dozen of MH domestic flights this April. Any check-in agent will gladly put in any number you ask them to. Miles just never post

NoWindowSeat Jul 27, 2004 1:56 am

Yep, I know the number means nothing. But it is quite annoying that they haven't clearly stated what is the policy with these AF codeshares and FD after the merger...seems that FD really lives up to its zero expectations, I am clad I don't have to use it as my primary FFP.

NickB Jul 27, 2004 2:05 am


Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
Yep, I know the number means nothing. But it is quite annoying that they haven't clearly stated what is the policy with these AF codeshares and FD after the merger...seems that FD really lives up to its zero expectations, I am clad I don't have to use it as my primary FFP.

They have stated what the policy is, and this policy is no miles. From the FAQ:


Q Can I earn FD Miles on Air France codeshare flights (not being AF/KLM codeshare flights)?
A It is only possible to earn Miles on Air France/KLM codeshared and operated flights. All other Air France codeshare flights are not eligible for mileage earning.

Aviatrix Jul 27, 2004 2:22 am


Originally Posted by NickB
They have stated what the policy is, and this policy is no miles.

That's pretty much as I would have expected, as that's the way it usually works with codeshares. If you're a frequent flyer of airline A, and you can earn points on airline B, then that usually only applies to flights operated by airline B but not to flights operatored by other carriers with airline B codeshare.

MAN Flyer Jul 27, 2004 2:35 am


Originally Posted by apoivre
Same for a dozen of MH domestic flights this April. Any check-in agent will gladly put in any number you ask them to. Miles just never post

Unless they've changed the rules, you can't earn FD miles for MH domestic flights.

NoWindowSeat Jul 28, 2004 2:11 am

OK, sorry for missing that fact. If I may still complain a bit, this really isn't a full merger and integration of to airlines & FFPs, until this kind of "earning" is allowed...

NickB Jul 28, 2004 2:33 am


Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
OK, sorry for missing that fact. If I may still complain a bit, this really isn't a full merger and integration of to airlines & FFPs, until this kind of "earning" is allowed...

You are right for now. Full integration of FFPs is for 2005. Until then, this is technically just a partnership.

apoivre Aug 9, 2004 9:19 am


Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
Unless they've changed the rules, you can't earn FD miles for MH domestic flights.

I knew that, just decided to give it a try anyway. I was actually hoping there's some glitch in the rules that regards flights between West Malaysia, Sabah and Sarawak as international (you have to clear immigration, BTW). So I'm not complaining, just stating the fact

Eendracht Aug 9, 2004 10:13 am

This is not new...
 
You also cannot earn FD miles on NW-partners like Japan Airlines (JAL).

That you cannot earn FD miles on AF-partners is logical, as they are AF-partners, and not KL-partners. This will change when KL joins SkyTeam. Then you can earn FD miles on SkyTeam airlines as well (still not on exclusive AF-partners, if these exist).

Aviatrix Aug 9, 2004 10:16 am


Originally Posted by Eendracht
You also cannot earn FD miles on NW-partners like Japan Airlines (JAL) and Alaska Airlines.

I thought Alaska Airlines was a Flying Dutchman partner - or has that changed?

Jenbel Aug 9, 2004 10:39 am


Originally Posted by Aviatrix
I thought Alaska Airlines was a Flying Dutchman partner - or has that changed?

It is. I earned FD miles on a Horizon Air flight booked under a NW flight no last year.


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