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Originally Posted by Solevita
(Post 35442262)
We're digging into seemingly obvious anomalies in your case to try and better understand what actually is going on.
If you do indeed find a regulatory board to take this on, do you not think they might also examine closely these strange numbers and then side with KLM? The point is, whilst your story and numbers don't seem to make sense, you aren't going to have much success pleading this to KLM or any regulatory board. We've questioned things here, can you not yourself double check the facts, check you haven't indeed got a currency conversion error somewhere? https://thenorwayguide.com/price-for...pand_article=1 |
Originally Posted by atflyer
(Post 35442411)
Maybe this link explains part of the story.....but indeed, we on this thread have to be the detectives to get an understanding what happened. It would be so helpful to have a to the point, fact-based, transparently documented story of why which costs were incurred that does not raise questions such as the strange spending on petrol. Or if it indeed was a gathering where a super-expensive bunad was essential, why this was not mentioned directly. And why hiring this or buying a very similar festdrak (that is not hand made and lacks the silver pieces) for a fraction of the price was not an option. As Solevita indicates, without that not much chance on success on pleading this to KLM or a regulatory board. And you cannot expect an airline to refund buying a literally silver-lined piece of clothing.
https://thenorwayguide.com/price-for...pand_article=1 Point is, KL actually followed protocol based on the information provided to them and the regulations/conditions for these situations and rightfully reimbursed OP the proper amount. |
I am sorry you did not get much empathy here.
I am not assuming that you are trying to make money on the expense of the airline. But I am surprised that such a seasoned traveler with 3k+ posts on FT has such unrealistic expectations towards airlines, let alone KLM that has had quite a frugal reputation. And does not carry credit cards on you (let alone checking them in the hold ) that could generate a trail of expenses to communicate with the airline. |
It's pretty obvious KLM thinks - and I'm not saying they're right - that OP Is full of it. There are certain details of the story that seem odd, and they have been pointed out in this thread. I'm sure a KLM customer service rep can see the same issues and they are likely inclined to be very skeptical. And they're in the position to act on that skepticism in the way they did. OP's best option, other than the ones already suggested such as travel insurance claims, is to use a different airline in the future.
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Originally Posted by olivedel
(Post 35442591)
I am sorry you did not get much empathy here.
I am not assuming that you are trying to make money on the expense of the airline. But I am surprised that such a seasoned traveler with 3k+ posts on FT has such unrealistic expectations towards airlines, let alone KLM that has had quite a frugal reputation. And does not carry credit cards on you (let alone checking them in the hold ) that could generate a trail of expenses to communicate with the airline.
Originally Posted by Ber2dca
(Post 35443573)
It's pretty obvious KLM thinks - and I'm not saying they're right - that OP Is full of it.
As I said, if others like to play detective and it makes them happy, I'm glad I can help your day! But I do read some comments and see you don't realize the totality of the situation, or you make assumptions, or you leave parts out that I haven't commented on. Frankly as I'm taking civil action, I'd rather not discuss this publicly anymore. I may have been off by $50 or $100 in my statements on the gas. That doesn't mean the whole story is Bologna because I was raised with the Imperial system. Sorry... Thanks to those who genuinely helped and provided links and what purview this violation falls under to lead me in the right direction. Safe travels everyone! |
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35443701)
Right, and KLM can think what it wants. We know what happened, and I never expected them to fully pay for all the hardship they caused us to incur. |
Originally Posted by hsumh316
(Post 35443929)
This is exactly the issue. There is a disconnect between what KLM thinks and what you believe they should reimburse/comp you for. I dont think anyone is doubting you on your story, but we are just doubting the amount you are claiming. You don't need to convince anyone here of what you think you should be reimbursed for but I do think the people on here bring on valid points. Best of luck.
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35443989)
That's fair... I don't see how $1000 would be an unreasonable sum.
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Originally Posted by Ber2dca
(Post 35443573)
OP's best option, other than the ones already suggested such as travel insurance claims, is to use a different airline in the future.
If you document transparently that the solution you took for having your luggage delayed is commensurate given the circumstances, anyone in this thread will understand. As likely will KLM. The skepticism in this thread comes from the fact most of us cannot follow the story well. No wonder that KLM has a skeptical stance too. A transparent story takes this skepticism away, and likely will lead to a reasonable settlement. Lawyers are to be involved as last resort. And I say this after some hesitation - not having your luggage at a family reunion related to a deceased ancestor and wedding is not how it should be - but involving lawyers at this stage smells to me too much to reflecting the infamous and exaggerated claim culture from the US. |
So, between this experience and
Having so many service recovery gestures that Hilton Opted to apologize for being unable To meet your high standards, Things would seem to point At you being not only the most unlucky flyer on KLM, but probably the most unlucky traveler on Earth. Regards, hhdl |
Originally Posted by hhdl
(Post 35444893)
Things would seem to point
At you being not only the most unlucky flyer on KLM, but probably the most unlucky traveler on Earth. Regards, hhdl |
Originally Posted by hhdl
(Post 35444893)
Regards, hhdl
:D :D :D |
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35443701)
I may have been off by $50 or $100 in my statements on the gas. That doesn't mean the whole story is Bologna because I was raised with the Imperial system. Sorry...
It's not like you were out by a few percent, a few 10s of percent, you were out by about 80%. Imagine you take this to Judge Judy - "So, NWplatinum, you claimed $300 US for gas for a 3 hour journey." "Yes your honour". KLM: "that 3 hour journey in a reasonable vehicle would have cost not more than $50 US, as well the receipt provided was only for ca $170 US" Judy: "So, NWplatinum, where indeed did you figure out a cost of $300 US" NWplatinum: "Well metric is so hard to comprehend you know and who knows how much a Norwegine Krone is worth, so I just plucked a figure out thin air" Judy: "Case dismissed". |
He is taking a lawyer so case closed then. Good luck to him (i mean the lawyer) ;)
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Originally Posted by atflyer
(Post 35444041)
but involving lawyers at this stage smells to me too much to reflecting the infamous and exaggerated claim culture from the US.
There’s also the humanity factor I didn’t even bring up since it’s a personal matter that nobody knows about. As a result of their negligence, and the baggage service handler turning around down the street, I had to run to the airport and miss the family tour of my wife’s great-grand mothers home she grew up in during WWII. That’s just one example of dozens that ruined this once in a lifetime trip that was meant to heal, celebrate, and cope over the death of her mother. KLMs flippant attitude about this is also inhumane. I don’t have the time, or energy to give an essay response as to the exact series of events to every onlookers seemingly “inconsistency” to prove to someone that doesn’t matter in this situation at all. KLM knows the totality of the situation, and they don’t care. I also don’t care that people are making conclusions without having the full story. I have the receipts I need, the entire story, and I will let the evidence do the talking for me. I don’t need a bunch of strangers on a forum’s approval. Sorry, it’s just not that important to me, nor will it ever be. Again, even if you don’t support me, I appreciate everyone’s feedback that was helpful with links to the right authorities, and outlining of the Montreal Convention so I knew what purvey this fell under. Back in the day, this forum was about helping fellow travelers find solutions to problems they encountered with airlines. Sadly the more threads I see, they seem to turn into a reality TV show for some and I think that’s unfortunate. |
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