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Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440455)
Sorry you feel that way. It was 1.5 hours each way, I forgot the city her cousins live in but I can certainly get it to you. If you'd like I can also send you the gas receipt.
At this juncture I just am looking for specific agencies I can file complaints with against KLM. Any help from all would be greatly appreciated. Any sensible person, seeing something like that which doesn't seem to make any sense at all, i.e. out by almost a factor of 10 (maybe you were driving an HGV and haven't said so?!) would then instantly doubt other things in the claim. 300 NOK maybe, not $300 US. |
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440567)
What travel insurance? With who? My father-in law booked these tickets I don't know what kind of travel insurance there would be.
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Originally Posted by macaron35
(Post 35436843)
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen...htm#next-steps
- complain to national authorities If you don't receive a reply from the airline within 2 months or if you are not satisfied with the reply, you can lodge a complaint with the relevant national authorityhttps://europa.eu/youreurope/citizen.../theme/pdf.gif in the country where the incident took place, within a reasonable timeframe. The national authority should provide you with a non-binding legal opinion on how to proceed with your claim. in your case: https://www.reiselivsforum.no/web/ho...umentName=home |
Originally Posted by Solevita
(Post 35440591)
Simply going off the gas receipt(s), $300 US would be approx 135l of petrol (assuming petrol, not diesel). Let's assume a speed of 110 km/h for the entire 3 hours, giving 330 km. Are you really saying your vehicle consumed 40l / 100 km? That's more than an HGV might use! indeed you may have a receipt(s) for that much, but I can't see how you could have used that much fuel in 3 hours, and I don't blame KLM for throwing this out as it's simply ludicrous.
Any sensible person, seeing something like that which doesn't seem to make any sense at all, i.e. out by almost a factor of 10 (maybe you were driving an HGV and haven't said so?!) would then instantly doubt other things in the claim. 300 NOK maybe, not $300 US. PS the name of the city was Lyngdal. |
Originally Posted by Solevita
(Post 35440606)
Regardless of who booked the tickets, it's up to you to get travel insurance for yourself. Are you saying you haven't knowingly purchased any travel insurance? What if (hopefully you don't) you fall ill and need medical assistance?
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440661)
First of all, if I remember correctly it was approximately $300 in fuel we used as a result of their negligence and having to drive round trip to the airport. I could be wrong on this. I only have the receipt for the fill up, which came to 1705.53 NOK which I filed with them.
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440661)
Please forgive me if my miles to kilometers, to liters, to miles, to dollars, to euros, to Krone is off. It has nothing to do with my story being bogus, just that I am approximating.
PS the name of the city was Lyngdal. |
So you drove 3 hours R/T and you are claiming worth $300 of gas ?
And you spent nearly 9000 euros on replacement clothing ? your story is really too weird. EU261 is a law that has been created to protect travellers. Of course it covers up to 1300 euros but it has not created to make false claims and easy money on the back of airlines. |
Originally Posted by macaron35
(Post 35440793)
So you drove 3 hours R/T and you are claiming worth $300 of gas ?
And you spent nearly 9000 euros on replacement clothing ? your story is really too weird. EU261 is a law that has been created to protect travellers. Of course it covers up to 1300 euros but it has not created to make false claims and easy money on the back of airlines. |
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440018)
I did provide receipts. They denied them with no explanation. The suit was 2k and the dress was 5k (approximately). And gas was $300 round trip (approximately). I saved all receipts in NOK.
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And according to Google maps Lyngdal-Kristiansand is about 75 km....hmmmm
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440311)
We spent approximately 100,000 NOK? Again, I never asked nor expected KLM to reimburse us for all of that. Despite their gross negligence, I think $1000 would've been more than fair. $225 doesn't even cover the gas.
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People can pick apart, and play detective on my story if they choose to, and if it makes them feel good, I'm glad I can help. Seems like some might have too much time on their hands, nonetheless it's not my business. If I can entertain and help someone fill their time and feel better about themselves, then I am happy too.
But at the end of the day this did happen. My wife is still very upset about this whole ordeal, and the ruining of our trip celebrating the life of her mother who just recently passed away from cancer. You can say this didn't happen if that makes you feel better I'm glad I can help someone feel better about their day. In any case, back to reality and actually helping people who post on here, since KLM is not cooperating. What next steps can I do? Who can I contact? I have contacted Dutch and Norwegian authorities. But I don't think there's anyone else apart from bringing them to small claims court/regular court (likely). |
We're digging into seemingly obvious anomalies in your case to try and better understand what actually is going on.
If you do indeed find a regulatory board to take this on, do you not think they might also examine closely these strange numbers and then side with KLM? The point is, whilst your story and numbers don't seem to make sense, you aren't going to have much success pleading this to KLM or any regulatory board. We've questioned things here, can you not yourself double check the facts, check you haven't indeed got a currency conversion error somewhere? |
Originally Posted by NWplatinum
(Post 35440567)
What travel insurance? With who? My father-in law booked these tickets I don't know what kind of travel insurance there would be.
As someone who seems to travel a lot, I find it hard to believe that you have neither an ongoing annual multi-trip travel insurance product, or a separate standalone policy taken out just for this trip (particularly when travelling with checked luggage whose value was far in excess of the airline's liability) |
So you have traveled approx 200km to the airport, assuming leaving from the far side of Lyngdal.
Your cousin has filled up to the tune of $170. Which makes about 78 liters of petrol or 90 liters of diesel. That's a fully filled fuel tank and then some. Not even the thirstiest, most outlandish, specially-imported barely-legal vehicles consume that. Yet you claim that KLM should pay you $300 for this. Not $170. Not something reasonable like $30. A full tank and then twice that. You have decided that this family event is so very special, you have to purchase a suit and dress from the most expensive shop around. Your wife is very upset, because she could not celebrate the life of her mother appropriately without putting on something that cost more than most Norwegians entire wardrobes. You pack apparently not only thousands of dollars worth of clothing, but also all your methods of payment into checked baggage, you travel intercontinentally, but you don't even care to ask if there is any travel insurance included with the ticket, let alone arrange your own. Then you submit a ridiculous claim to an airline, get rejected, ask why you got rejected on a forum, and get angry when told exactly what all in your story doesn't add up at all. First you claim you have receipts for this, receipts for that, then when pressed for details, you pull out a number half that claimed originally. You get angrier when questioned on that. Seriously, take your ridiculous unsubstantiated claim and find some dime-a-dozen lawyer to fill your suit so it can be thrown out. You won't find purchase with any Dutch or Norwegian authorities, they are meant for consumer protection, not for consumer abusing the airlines. |
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