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Hornet1455 Jul 7, 2022 7:18 am

SkyPriority companions not allowed in AMS priority security
 
My significant other and I are flying AMS-CDG today with hand luggage. We went to the SkyPriority check-in area and were asked whether we had bags to check. When I said no, the agent said, "Then we can't let you into the SkyPriority security line. Schiphol has changed the rules from today, and only the SkyPriority member is allowed into the priority line."

Just for the hell of it, we tried to enter the line of it and were told that "companions have never been allowed in this line." Umm, no - we traveled together two weeks ago and six weeks ago and used the priority line without any problems.

Every time you think Schiphol can't possibly get any worse, they find ways to prove you wrong. 🤯

KLM's lounges are mediocre at best, priority bags are rarely delivered first (even in AMS/CDG!), and now we can't consistently use priority security - so what's the point of Flying Blue status?
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CyBeR Jul 7, 2022 7:25 am

Companions have never officially been allowed to use Priority airport services. KLM does routinely allow them to use the priority check-in desks.

When the airport is not in meltdown mode they do (or at least, did) allow companions to use priority security but that was never a stated benefit.

The point of FB status is that you may use those services. Your companion does not have that status so that question is frankly a little strange.

Hornet1455 Jul 7, 2022 7:36 am


Originally Posted by CyBeR (Post 34404224)
The point of FB status is that you may use those services. Your companion does not have that status so that question is frankly a little strange.

Most other airlines allow their status members the same airport benefits when they travel together. And no, I can't use the benefits when traveling with my significant other if she can't​​​​​. Your lack of understanding of this point is frankly a little strange.

CyBeR Jul 7, 2022 7:54 am


Originally Posted by Hornet1455 (Post 34404242)
Most other airlines allow their status members the same airport benefits when they travel together. And no, I can't use the benefits when traveling with my significant other if she can't​​​​​. Your lack of understanding of this point is frankly a little strange.

I am aware that some airlines do this, but I doubt it's most. Regardless, KLM has in the past allowed this but at this point there are simply too many people to do it and the priority experience for those that did earn those benefits would be negatively affected.

Your wife can use the SP lane by purchasing a ticket that includes SP, be it in a premium cabin or when flying KLM using the Flex option in Y. You can then use your benefits like normal.

mfkne Jul 7, 2022 8:15 am


Originally Posted by Hornet1455 (Post 34404242)
And no, I can't use the benefits when traveling with my significant other if she can't​​​​​.

Well, technically you can.

edefran Jul 7, 2022 8:32 am


Your wife can use the SP lane by purchasing a ticket that includes SP, be it in a premium cabin or when flying KLM using the Flex option in Y.
So the companion will be on a separate PNR? That will be great for IROPs and the like. Get real.

Travellers are loyal to an airline/alliance because of the conveniences afforded when travelling. With this, KLM/Schiphol are inconveniencing the travel process.

physicsdude Jul 7, 2022 9:08 am


Originally Posted by edefran (Post 34404373)

Travellers are loyal to an airline/alliance because of the conveniences afforded when travelling. With this, KLM/Schiphol are inconveniencing the travel process.

Or are loyal because their employer forces them to :).

I agree with what you're saying and the circumstances are not helping as well. The best that we can do is to just hope that this won't happen again and in the mean time, people should transit through AMS instead of starting at AMS.

Fabo.sk Jul 7, 2022 9:29 am


Originally Posted by edefran (Post 34404373)
So the companion will be on a separate PNR? That will be great for IROPs and the like. Get real.

Travellers are loyal to an airline/alliance because of the conveniences afforded when travelling. With this, KLM/Schiphol are inconveniencing the travel process.

Then become loyal to Delta or whoever offered SP extension.

This has never been a feature of KLM, FB or AMS. It only worked because Schiphol decided not to enforce access to priority lanes in the past.
And it was not "starting today" either.

mfkne Jul 7, 2022 9:31 am

I do see it as a benefit to solo-travelling SP passengers because this will reduce the number of passengers in the SP line.

johan rebel Jul 7, 2022 10:11 am


Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 34404547)
I do see it as a benefit to solo-travelling SP passengers because this will reduce the number of passengers in the SP line.

The fewer people in the priority line, the better. Not only when the airport is in crisis mode, but always.

A selfish perspective, but there you have it. There are too many pax with priority status to begin with.

Johan

CyBeR Jul 7, 2022 10:17 am


Originally Posted by edefran (Post 34404373)
So the companion will be on a separate PNR? That will be great for IROPs and the like. Get real.

If OP is worried about that, OP can buy the flex option himself as well.


Travellers are loyal to an airline/alliance because of the conveniences afforded when travelling. With this, KLM/Schiphol are inconveniencing the travel process.
I hold the opposite view that I am being convenienced by non-status pax being rejected from priority lines as they make those lines faster for me.

They are of course quite welcome to join again once things quiet down.

KLflyerRalph Jul 7, 2022 11:02 am

I agree with the OP that this is a grave inconvenience for passengers travelling together. Especially families (Plat parent who is now forced to stand in the hour long queue with the kids won’t be happy for example). Also for Silver/Elite members who now apparently are being denied entry to the priority security line, this will be an unwelcome surprise. KL has set sort of a precedent that entry to the Skyprio check-in equals priority security, so frequent AMS flyers naturally are accustomed to this. My guess is it’s Schiphol who’s doubling down on the eligibility checks.

CyBeR Jul 7, 2022 11:18 am


Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph (Post 34404841)
My guess is it’s Schiphol who’s doubling down on the eligibility checks.

Absolutely. It's a Schiphol employee (or contractor, who knows these days) doing the eligibility check. And it protects their Privium product.

Keep in mind also that Schiphol requires that carrier's priority pax be under 15% of their total, and they provision lanes and personnel based on that number. It is up to the airlines to decide who are able to use the priority lanes, so KLM *could* enable that for companions by coding and printing SkyPriority on their boarding passes, however there is no way KLM would stay under the maximum allowed 15% of pax if they did that.

AS MHT Jul 7, 2022 11:24 am


Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 34404330)
Well, technically you can.

Are you single? or do you just enjoy sleeping on the couch?

Fabo.sk Jul 7, 2022 11:35 am


Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph (Post 34404841)
I agree with the OP that this is a grave inconvenience for passengers travelling together. Especially families (Plat parent who is now forced to stand in the hour long queue with the kids won’t be happy for example). Also for Silver/Elite members who now apparently are being denied entry to the priority security line, this will be an unwelcome surprise. KL has set sort of a precedent that entry to the Skyprio check-in equals priority security, so frequent AMS flyers naturally are accustomed to this. My guess is it’s Schiphol who’s doubling down on the eligibility checks.

Silver elites are also accustomed to not having priority security at outstations.

You can't abuse the privilege you know you're not supposed to get for years, and then be all surprised pikachu when suddenly you don't get it any more.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...88b5fc9e77.gif
reference picture, KLM elite being told they will not be getting something they should not be getting


Originally Posted by AS MHT (Post 34404916)
Are you single? or do you just enjoy sleeping on the couch?

Well, technically you can. Also while I understand most partners will prefer to suffer together, I for one would have no issue sending my partner ahead in prio lane.


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