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Old May 9, 2019, 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL
AF PE product is lackluster and absolutely not worth the price. In general you pay at least 50% more (often 75% more) compared to a Y ticket. The food is just a slight upgrade but the seat is just horrific. I would prefer a Y seat over a PE seat at AF, and would gladly be willing to trade with a Y passenger.
Pricing can be a hit or a miss, often PE tickets are costing around the same as Y, especially when booking relatively last minute.
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Old May 9, 2019, 3:36 am
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Originally Posted by Ditto
Pricing can be a hit or a miss, often PE tickets are costing around the same as Y, especially when booking relatively last minute.
I’d be happy so see some examples, never experienced that at all.
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Old May 9, 2019, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

I’d be happy so see some examples, never experienced that at all.
Here is one for a flight this coming Saturday, it was much easier to find with the old website layout.
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Old May 9, 2019, 4:59 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

I’d be happy so see some examples, never experienced that at all.
And another example from July (take in mind extra baggage/extra XP and PE allows cancellation for a fee)
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Old May 9, 2019, 5:20 am
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Originally Posted by Ditto
And another example from July (take in mind extra baggage/extra XP and PE allows cancellation for a fee)
Fair enough. Are these round trips?
These are all ex- AMS , you think it has something to do with AF wanting to take market share from KL?
i never saw anything so good from my out station which is in Scandinavia.
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Old May 9, 2019, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

Fair enough. Are these round trips?
These are all ex- AMS , you think it has something to do with AF wanting to take market share from KL?
i never saw anything so good from my out station which is in Scandinavia.
No, that's just one-way as a part of a r/t.
And here is an example from Oslo (but mind you, there are cheaper/shorter flights that day via AMS), I suppose it might be more noticeable ex-AMS as fares on KL non-stop will be higher than AF via CDG.

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Old May 9, 2019, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by Ditto
No, that's just one-way as a part of a r/t.
And here is an example from Oslo (but mind you, there are cheaper/shorter flights that day via AMS), I suppose it might be more noticeable ex-AMS as fares on KL non-stop will be higher than AF via CDG.

ok and what are the dates on your example ? I can’t find these fares, far from it.
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Old May 9, 2019, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

ok and what are the dates on your example ? I can’t find these fares, far from it.
This was 2nd week of July, don't remember which day as I had to swap around to find it.
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Old May 10, 2019, 2:24 pm
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I think that looking at those numbers confirm that KL is missing out on those people who specifically want PE. After having flown both, PE and economy flex there are many reasons to fly PE if the fares between flex economy and PE are within range. Granted the AF PE seat is not my favorite. The LH seat and BA seats and fares cost KL travelers, especially business travelers whose company doesn't want to spring for a business ticket. In my opinion.
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