Ber2dca

As I said, they remind me of seats on public buses (on which you rarely sit longer than 20-30 minutes).

A lot of airplane seats are uncomfortable not because of width or pitch but because they're 'sat through' like an old mattress. I've slept like a baby in seats with 31 inch pitch but often can't find any comfortable position regardless of pitch if the seat is worn out.

Now these type of 'slim' seats already start out much harder and the cushions will rapidly deteriorate as the seats age because of their thinness.

YYCCL3

Has anyone thoughts on seats to recommend or avoid in the new Y in 772? Would like to help my parents out with a booking... Seat guru has some comments (under the wrong aircraft revision, but thats beside the point) but no specifics.

nallison

Hi, I've just done Bogotá - London on the new Y 777. I posted my thoughts elsewhere, but to summarise, it really isnt suitable as a long haul seat. Its cardboard thin, and Ifound the lack of width very noticeable, at shoulder level particularly. For example on any a320 you'll have more space on a short hop which is fairly ridiculous.

On specifics, I wouldn't say any is much better, there's no underseat boxes to worry about. I don't think economy comfort is worth what they charge at all. Maybe the extra legroom (exit row) seats are worth looking at for some space at a less ridiculous price.

It's a shame, I love KLM crew and always find them warm and can enjoy a joke with them. But I would avoid them on the 777 from now on...

YYCCL3

Thanks for the review. As luck would have it, two days ago KLM downgauged the aircraft on the particular trip I had in mind to A332. Which is good for my parents as Y in KL's A332 is not that bad...too bad myself and wife paid for business class on the same trip. Thinking of cancelling and rebooking in Y as the slippery slope WBC is not really worth the premium

Ardecos

Earlier this year I flew on a 777-200 to Rio de Janiero in Economy comfort. It was pre-upgrade and so was 3-3-3 configuration. It was fine. Last Friday I flew on one of the "upgraded" 777-200s to Atlanta and it was much worse, even though I was in an Economy Comfort seat. I was crushed up against the passenger next to me and as I was in an aisle seat I was constantly hit by trolleys driven by the cabin crew. This was not their fault as the aisles are now so narrow; in fact they looked thoroughly fed up with it. Definitely a retrograde step by KLM.

Ardecos

My return flight from Atlanta last night was on a Delta 747 and the seats looked very similar to the new KLM ones. The seating was also 3-4-3 although the aisles were a bit wider than the KLM 777-200.

mith

Which seat would you recommend to a very tall person on the new 772? Row 10 and of course 10HJK are already taken? I believe that the exit row 31 is probably the best, but window, middle or aisle considering the narrowness (aisle getting bumbed by other pax at night, window/door cold or narrow on shoulder)

greg0ire

Anyone have experience with row 31? Worth the extra $100 for a 10 hour flight? Thanks!

caliform

It depends on how much you value legroom and how much you value a regular seat back table. I'd probably go for it so I can stretch out and just knock myself out to sleep, but if you are looking to get work done or otherwise enjoy a table an eco comfort seat that's not in an exit row might be nicer.

greg0ire

Thank you. I am okay with everything you mentioned. My fear is the activity in front and next to my seat as well as the temperature. To choose seats in row 14 would be $140.

caliform

I always run warm so the slight bit of cold doesn't bother me. I do find the seats very narrow, which is annoying. But that's economy for ya.