Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL
I highly doubt DFW...as a matter of fact, I would eliminate Dallas right now just to avoid the whole Wright Ammendment mess. Spirit now serves DFW and WN is big at DAL. Maybe later on but not yet...I heard ORD (believe it or not over MDW) is coming soon.
MSP...I have not heard any rumors from jetBlue sources, but think it would be an EXCELLENT route for jetBlue to JFK. On a.net, the current rumors are: TUS, SRQ, HOU. I don't think TUS will happen... The most-rumored cities in general, which still have not come are SAV and STL. My gut says that the next city is STL, followed by SRQ. |
TUS 320 1X and HOU 190 3X
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Originally Posted by owflyer
TUS 320 1X and HOU 190 3X
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Originally Posted by owflyer
TUS 320 1X and HOU 190 3X
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NYC desperately needs B6 to go to HOU. I'm flying to HOU this week and looked at CO. With a two-week advance the best I could find was $818. Ended up booking ATA at $376, but we have prefered, of course, to fly B6.
The Midwest in general is pretty thin right now, and I'd love to fly to MSP, Chicago (whether O'Hare or Midway), IND, STL, Columbus, and MCI. I know B6 avoids going head to head in a market controlled by one legacy carrier ready to do battle. In the case of MSP, DTW, CVG, ATL, they're probably wary of doing battle with carriers already in Chptr 11 and ready to sell inventory far below cost in order to maintain supremacy. |
Originally Posted by prhs1989
TUS doesn't make any sense. It is a seasonal flight for Continental. I fear that they would drop fares to increase a market that isn't there.
How successful have the PHX redeyes to JFK and BOS been for JetBlue? It could be that JetBlue is looking for more of the same kind of traffic. |
Originally Posted by prhs1989
TUS doesn't make any sense. It is a seasonal flight for Continental. I fear that they would drop fares to increase a market that isn't there.
My gut says that the next city is STL, followed by SRQ. If this data is correct, then TUS is underserved and fits perfectly the B6 profile of finding a niche market not controlled by a major player unlike PHX which is one of AWA's primary hub. |
Originally Posted by 201flyer
I think JetBlue is trying one evening/redeye JFK-TUS round trip per day to see if it will be better than keeping an A320 sitting on the ground at JFK all night. They are probably looking for more Western US cities to send redeyes to.
How successful have the PHX redeyes to JFK and BOS been for JetBlue? It could be that JetBlue is looking for more of the same kind of traffic. |
Jetblue should focus in the caribbean route such as PLS, Punta Cana, Santo Domingo(from FLL), Curacao etc etc, as spirit airlines doing right now
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Originally Posted by 201flyer
I think JetBlue is trying one evening/redeye JFK-TUS round trip per day to see if it will be better than keeping an A320 sitting on the ground at JFK all night. They are probably looking for more Western US cities to send redeyes to.
How successful have the PHX redeyes to JFK and BOS been for JetBlue? It could be that JetBlue is looking for more of the same kind of traffic. |
I agree that the midwest is lacking. I would gather that B6 has 2 options. Option one would be to pick up places like STL, MDW/ORD, MKE, MSP, MCI, HOU/IAH, and DFW, just to name a few. The other option would to be filling in the gaps withing the current structure. The service from IAD to the cities in Florida are minimal at best. They have yet to go IAD to MCO and TPA. BOS has no direct service to RDU, CLT, JAX, AUA, and SJU on the east coast and PDX, BUR, and SAN on the west coast. They really have two choice when it comes the short term. Option 1 or Option 2? I would go with Option 1 and connect BOS and IAD through JFK, then beef up everything else later.
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Originally Posted by Seat13c
I agree that the midwest is lacking. I would gather that B6 has 2 options. Option one would be to pick up places like STL, MDW/ORD, MKE, MSP, MCI, HOU/IAH, and DFW, just to name a few. The other option would to be filling in the gaps withing the current structure. The service from IAD to the cities in Florida are minimal at best. They have yet to go IAD to MCO and TPA. BOS has no direct service to RDU, CLT, JAX, AUA, and SJU on the east coast and PDX, BUR, and SAN on the west coast. They really have two choice when it comes the short term. Option 1 or Option 2? I would go with Option 1 and connect BOS and IAD through JFK, then beef up everything else later.
Don't forget that B6 signed on for 11 gates at BOS, so I don't see them routing all of their extra traffic through JFK. Personally, I see them expanding their current flights out of BOS because they have ample gates. (I.E. they have 1 flight to AUS and 2 flights to RIC. AUS is supposedly doing really well, so I see room for an extra flight or two.) Boston could grow to be a large operation because Delta seems to have forgotten about BOS, and the other majors have decent, but not large by any means, operations. (Save US) Finally, I also think that many of the 190's will work their way up to Boston. I think that it is the perfect plane for Boston, as they could use them for more flights to upstate NY, Puerto Rico, MSY, and FLA. |
As we take more deliveries of the 190s, look for BOS to be dominated by 190s, there will be more 320 routes, of course, but the main future for BOS will be the 190s.
From what I have been hearing floating around the company, we aren't going to keep playing nice. We are going to start going after the smaller airlines that compete on routes (USA3000, Spirit) As always that is a rumore and with this industry belive what you hear when you see it. As for the new destination rumores we've all been hearing St. Louis, St. Croix, and St. Thomas. |
Originally Posted by JetBlueFA
As we take more deliveries of the 190s, look for BOS to be dominated by 190s, there will be more 320 routes, of course, but the main future for BOS will be the 190s.
From what I have been hearing floating around the company, we aren't going to keep playing nice. We are going to start going after the smaller airlines that compete on routes (USA3000, Spirit) As always that is a rumore and with this industry belive what you hear when you see it. As for the new destination rumores we've all been hearing St. Louis, St. Croix, and St. Thomas. St. Croix? I thought that the rumor was St. Louis, St. Thomas, and St. Marteen? Shows what I know. |
Originally Posted by prhs1989
I have a question. How/Why do you attack USA3000? I think about EWR, where they seem to have their own little niche market. They seem to only fly a few days a week (mostly) as well. Do they want to raise their load factors from 96% to 98%? Spirit, on the other hand, could be an airline that Jetblue may want to dominate. They have so many valuable assets that if they pulled back at all, B6 could easily sweep in (I.E. Spirit's many gates at FLL, one or two gates at LGA).
St. Croix? I thought that the rumor was St. Louis, St. Thomas, and St. Marteen? Shows what I know. Tthe St. Croix/St. Marteen, St. Louis and St. Thomas rumor is a rumor ! I'm not saying it won't happen - it probably will - but it's still a rumor, so that's why it is still not clear. The actual rumor, I believe, was 3 cities that start with "St". There are also very hot SAV and SAT rumors. From what I understand, Mr. Neeleman said that more than 10 cities will be announced by 2006 - obviously they passed that number already. However, with jetBlue winning CUN rights; expect that to be one of the next "officially announced" cities. Keep in mind AUA, BNA, PIT, CLT and RDU still didn't launch! My prediction is that 2 more cities will be announced: STL and SXM. MSP would be awesome...and while there is a market at SAV, it probably might not come until very late 07, early 06...to see if any SAV people go down to JAX first. |
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