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Harmoncove Jan 1, 2020 9:36 am

Cpap for redeye on A321 Neo.
 
Hi all - Traveling back on the Redeye for Gye to Jfk. I've never flown overnight so I have concerns with my sleep apnea. It:s a 9:55 flight arriving at 5:12am. I'm in an EMS seat in row 17. Am I able to use my home cpap machine on the plane? Does anyone know if these seats have a power outlet? I'm looking for any other advice on how to deal with this including just toughening it out and trying to stay awake the whole flight.

Thanks..

GW McLintock Jan 2, 2020 9:49 am

The CPAP must have its own power source such as a battery. You cannot use the in-seat power outlet for your device. What if the outlet doesn't work? Here is a quote from their website:


Portable electronic personal ventilators, respirators, and continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP) and BiPAP machines may be carried and used on board JetBlue, in accordance with specific FAA guidelines.

Please note some of our aircraft have in-seat electrical power, but it is not available for ventilators, respirators, BiPAP or CPAP machines.

Ventilators, respirators and CPAP machines are considered assistive devices. They must be stowed and used in the cabin consistent with applicable TSA, FAA and other regulations governing carry-on bags.



If you are using a POC, you cannot sit in a bulkhead or exit row, and you must be in a window seat. I imagine the requirement for a CPAP device is similar. You may want to call JetBlue for more specific information.

-J.

Often1 Jan 2, 2020 11:16 am

The B6 rule is consistent with the policy on most carriers worldwide. Seat power is both unreliable and often insufficient. Thus, you will need battery pack(s) sufficient to cover the length of the flight.

If you figure that you will get about 4 hours of downtime on this flight, will your battery power the CPAP for that long? If not, you may need a second battery with you.

michael1023 Jan 2, 2020 1:20 pm

i think a portable cpap may be more reasonable, although I think they are usually out of pocket.

on a separate note, i hate these red-eyes from gye-jfk...

twice ive done gye-mia-jfk, and the gye-mia was a similar red eye...i dont understand these flights

Intheair2night Jan 5, 2020 3:29 pm


Originally Posted by michael1023 (Post 31901015)
i think a portable cpap may be more reasonable, although I think they are usually out of pocket.

on a separate note, i hate these red-eyes from gye-jfk...

twice ive done gye-mia-jfk, and the gye-mia was a similar red eye...i dont understand these flights

Agreed, it really took the wind out of my sails when B6 finally added JFK-SJO direct flights and the SJO-JFK was a red-eye

flyinggolfer Jan 10, 2020 12:12 pm

I'm a little late to the party, but I just used my portable CPAP on a early am flight from JFK to LAX, so I could get a few extra hours of sleep. Since it was only going to be for a couple of hours and I was in Mint, I tried the AC outlet first and it was fine, but if you can't do without the machine, I wouldn't chance it. I've found the AC outlets on all aircraft to be hit or miss, wherever you're seated. Half the time the ac cable won't even stay plugged in to the outlet securely. Although I have the Philips Dreamstation Go, there's much cheaper machine that works very well, the Human Design Z2. As someone else mentioned though, the travel CPAP machines are out of pocket expenses as far as insurance companies are concerned.

GW McLintock Jan 10, 2020 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by flyinggolfer (Post 31933917)
I'm a little late to the party, but I just used my portable CPAP on a early am flight from JFK to LAX, so I could get a few extra hours of sleep. Since it was only going to be for a couple of hours and I was in Mint, I tried the AC outlet first and it was fine, but if you can't do without the machine, I wouldn't chance it. I've found the AC outlets on all aircraft to be hit or miss, wherever you're seated. Half the time the ac cable won't even stay plugged in to the outlet securely. Although I have the Philips Dreamstation Go, there's much cheaper machine that works very well, the Human Design Z2. As someone else mentioned though, the travel CPAP machines are out of pocket expenses as far as insurance companies are concerned.

The outlets aren't designed to support such devices. By using the outlet, you risk it shorting out, or in the worst case producing sparks which could start a fire.

-J.

flyinggolfer Jan 10, 2020 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 31933941)
The outlets aren't designed to support such devices. By using the outlet, you risk it shorting out, or in the worst case producing sparks which could start a fire.

-J.

Thanks. Out of curiosity, do you know or have a rating on the outlets? I'd like to know because if the Dreamstation Go (pulls between 2.5 and 5.5 amps) is a risk, I should also avoid plugging in my mobile phone charger which draws 7 amps.

Often1 Jan 10, 2020 3:35 pm

The simple fact is that B6 has made a determination that its onboard power is not suitable. In the wrong setting, this can turn ugly with the crew. The passenger convenience plugs are not on any aircraft's MEL and that puts the Captain in an awkward situation.

"While some of our aircraft have in-seat electrical power, it’s not suitable for medical devices."

The solution really is simple. Battery power.

dtremit Jan 12, 2020 9:33 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 31933941)
The outlets aren't designed to support such devices. By using the outlet, you risk it shorting out, or in the worst case producing sparks which could start a fire.

Frankly that’s nonsense. First, most current CPAP power supplies are literally indistinguishable from those used on laptops, with identical wattage and construction.

Second, the outlets are all designed to shut off at any hint of excess power draw.

I wouldn’t count on the outlets to be sufficient, or reliable, but the only danger in trying it out is disagreement with the crew.


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