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N830MH Feb 27, 2020 10:01 am

I don’t understand what happened the A321neo delays delivery? Due to engines issues. If they don’t delivery. They will have find something else.

GW McLintock Feb 27, 2020 3:37 pm

Ten days ago, N2039J completed an acceptance flight at XFW. As far as I can tell, N2047J does not have engines yet. No word on N2043J or N2044J.

N2027J is still sitting around at JFK. Wonder what's going on with it.


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 32119174)
I don’t understand what happened the A321neo delays delivery? Due to engines issues. If they don’t delivery. They will have find something else.

JetBlue is planning to lease four ex-Thomas Cook A321-231s later this year to fill in the gap. More information is on the fleet guide thread.

-J.

N830MH Feb 28, 2020 5:23 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32120466)
JetBlue is planning to lease four ex-Thomas Cook A321-231s later this year to fill in the gap. More information is on the fleet guide thread.

-J.

Got it. I heard it already. They will reduce the seats. That will have 200 passengers, not 240 or 220.

GW McLintock Feb 28, 2020 11:14 am


Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 32122126)
Got it. I heard it already. They will reduce the seats. That will have 200 passengers, not 240 or 220.

Not at first... allegedly they will be rushed into service in their current configuration (214-220 seats).

-J.

GW McLintock Feb 29, 2020 9:34 am

N2039J is en route to JFK.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...840Z/EDHI/KJFK

-J.

diburning Feb 29, 2020 4:42 pm

N2027J is sitting at JFK missing an engine. I can barely make out the name from the photo. “A Blue Point of View"


GW McLintock Mar 6, 2020 1:26 pm

N2043J has engines and just had its first flight a couple of days ago.

-J.

GW McLintock Mar 16, 2020 10:12 pm

Delivery of N2043J and N2047J is imminent. This may be it for a while :o

-J.

GW McLintock Mar 17, 2020 9:58 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32195967)
Delivery of N2043J and N2047J is imminent. This may be it for a while :o

And they're on the way! Literally five minutes apart. They're both expected to land at JFK at 1:32pm.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...740Z/EDHI/KJFK
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...810Z/EDHI/KJFK

...and they're both going to VQQ tonight!

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...010Z/KJFK/KVQQ
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...010Z/KJFK/KVQQ

-J.

diburning Mar 18, 2020 12:55 am

Looks like N2027J finally got a new engine. It's currently scheduled to go out on flight 1101 to FLL.

GW McLintock Mar 18, 2020 8:19 am


Originally Posted by diburning (Post 32200667)
Looks like N2027J finally got a new engine. It's currently scheduled to go out on flight 1101 to FLL.

Looks like they changed their mind... an A320 has the honors today, and tomorrow it's showing a standard A321.

-J.

diburning Mar 18, 2020 6:45 pm

I got an email from Robin Hayes this morning. The A321neo deliveries are being purposefully delayed and the four leased former Thomas cook A321s have been deferred.

GW McLintock Apr 4, 2020 10:49 am

The three newest planes have left VQQ. N2043J and N2047J ferried to MCO last week, and N2039J ferried to Tampa on Thursday. Whether they will be brought into service or be among those parked is anyone's guess.

-J.

GW McLintock Apr 27, 2020 10:49 am

I noticed in a video on JetBlue's blog today that these aircraft are now being delivered with the Airspace overhead bins. I believe the aircraft in the video is N2039J.

-J.

itripreport May 16, 2020 11:38 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32328772)
I noticed in a video on JetBlue's blog today that these aircraft are now being delivered with the Airspace overhead bins. I believe the aircraft in the video is N2039J.

-J.

Does anyone have any photos of this by any chance?

GW McLintock May 16, 2020 11:42 am


Originally Posted by itripreport (Post 32380774)
Does anyone have any photos of this by any chance?

You can see it in the video:


The overhead bins are different and below them is the extra light bar.

-J.

GW McLintock May 30, 2020 11:45 pm

It's probably common knowledge by now, but all of the NEOs that have entered service and been delivered have been parked for a month now. This entire subfleet is out of service.

D-AZAF (the future N2048J) was ferried and parked at ERF three weeks ago.

-J.

GW McLintock Jun 7, 2020 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32417346)
It's probably common knowledge by now, but all of the NEOs that have entered service and been delivered have been parked for a month now. This entire subfleet is out of service.

N2016J returned to service on June 5th. It had been parked at JFK since April 26th.

-J.

GW McLintock Jul 4, 2020 9:05 am

I've updated the wiki to show that N2039J, N2043J, and N2047J have all entered service. The latter two do not have Fly-Fi yet.

The entire fleet has returned to service. N2048J should be delivered in the near future, as it has just completed its acceptance flight at XFW.

-J.

GW McLintock Jul 8, 2020 1:13 pm

N2048J was indeed delivered yesterday to JFK. This aircraft was stored at ERF for most of May and June.

-J.

tphuang Jul 12, 2020 6:12 pm

I see that the 4 ex-monarch A321s are still showing as leased under JetBlue. The last one was only shown to have been delivered in June.
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...airways/348g45

I assume these are all stored somewhere. But with the expanded mint flying out of EWR, I wonder if these will be brought into service as reconfigured mint A321s. Well, earning call season is coming soon. We might get some light on that.

GW McLintock Jul 12, 2020 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by tphuang (Post 32527077)
I see that the 4 ex-monarch A321s are still showing as leased under JetBlue. The last one was only shown to have been delivered in June.
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...airways/348g45

I assume these are all stored somewhere. But with the expanded mint flying out of EWR, I wonder if these will be brought into service as reconfigured mint A321s. Well, earning call season is coming soon. We might get some light on that.

According to the fleet guide wiki:


Airbus A321-231 - 4 to be leased
  • Leased aircraft will not enter the fleet, and will be stored for the duration of the one year lease

AFAIK they are still in Tampa (well, 3 of them are... who knows about 902).

-J.

tphuang Jul 13, 2020 5:37 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32527212)
According to the fleet guide wiki:



AFAIK they are still in Tampa (well, 3 of them are... who knows about 902).

-J.

That would seem like a giant waste of money

GW McLintock Jul 13, 2020 7:57 am


Originally Posted by tphuang (Post 32527880)
That would seem like a giant waste of money

I agree... but what choice do they have :( Pay to reconfigure them with 200 seats and install IFE and Fly-Fi, fly them around with 220 seats and a 5th FA (while demand is at an all-time low)... or just leave them parked at minimal cost? I think this is an instance of cutting their losses. Nobody else wants these planes right now.

-J.

diburning Jul 13, 2020 4:26 pm

It was unfortunate timing. The leases were negotiated almost a year ago, and the planes were delivered about a week before the COVID downturn began.

tphuang Jul 13, 2020 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32528128)
I agree... but what choice do they have :( Pay to reconfigure them with 200 seats and install IFE and Fly-Fi, fly them around with 220 seats and a 5th FA (while demand is at an all-time low)... or just leave them parked at minimal cost? I think this is an instance of cutting their losses. Nobody else wants these planes right now.

-J.

Or they could defer more all-core NEOs, which they actually don't need right now, convert the leased birds to mint config, so they can use them on these EWR transcons. They are now up to 5x on LAX and 2x SFO. Not sure where they are finding the aircraft for these. In a year, negotiate better term for leases, since the market demand is way down.

From what I can see, the immediate A321NEO deliveries are all 200 seaters.

diburning Jul 16, 2020 4:40 pm

With what seats? Seats are usually purchased well in advance and require a decent lead time to manufacture. By the time they get more mint seats that they didn’t plan to buy, they will be obsolete since there is a Mint refresh coming due to the seats not holding up.

N902JT has joined the other three at TPA.

GW McLintock Aug 6, 2020 8:51 pm

F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

fly747first Sep 11, 2020 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32587309)
F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

Very interesting fact

diburning Sep 11, 2020 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32587309)
F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

N2084J. Ferried up to JFK for delivery and storage the day after your post.

GW McLintock Sep 15, 2020 9:01 pm

N2105J (msn 10101) has a new tail scheme and the behind-wing exits deactivated.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a7357ea39a.jpg

-J.

diburning Sep 15, 2020 9:55 pm

Interesting. I wonder why they changed it part of the way through the order? The tail design looks like ocean waves. Could this be the first LR?

GW McLintock Sep 16, 2020 6:39 am


Originally Posted by diburning (Post 32678542)
Interesting. I wonder why they changed it part of the way through the order? The tail design looks like ocean waves. Could this be the first LR?

This will very likely be the first Mint plane. Not sure if it is actually an LR or not.

-J.

diburning Sep 16, 2020 6:44 am

Twitter has already named it Blue Wavy Gravy.

Carfield Sep 16, 2020 7:26 am

I notice the missing windows at where Door 2 used to be... so I think this might be the new Mint aircraft.
I can't wait to see what new Mint product is installed here!


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32678460)
N2105J (msn 10101) has a new tail scheme and the behind-wing exits deactivated.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a7357ea39a.jpg

-J.


GW McLintock Sep 16, 2020 8:10 am


Originally Posted by Carfield (Post 32679332)
I notice the missing windows at where Door 2 used to be... so I think this might be the new Mint aircraft.
I can't wait to see what new Mint product is installed here!

I imagine a lav or "pantry" will be located there. Though I imagined the forward cabin would be bigger. But who knows what layout it will have. Hopefully we finally learn what "Mint Suite" and "Mint Studio" mean!

-J.

GW McLintock Sep 16, 2020 9:33 am

The new tail design has been named "Ribbon."

-J.

GW McLintock Sep 16, 2020 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by diburning (Post 32678542)
Interesting. I wonder why they changed it part of the way through the order? The tail design looks like ocean waves. Could this be the first LR?


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32679207)
This will very likely be the first Mint plane. Not sure if it is actually an LR or not.

It was confirmed today that this will be the first NEO to be equipped with Mint, however it is not an LR model. So I expect the area behind the "e" in "JetBlue" without the windows to be a lavatory, with a pantry opposite. Of course this is speculation -- the actual config is still TBA.

-J.

tphuang Sep 16, 2020 6:34 pm

This will be interesting to see. Some people, like the aib link, thought this could still be LR since LRs are also NEO. I think that's unlikely given that the first LR isn't supposed to come until Q1. In the Q2 earnings call, they still said all the deliveries until end of the year are going to be all core, so this is a change. I think they are seeing mint market recover ahead of all-core markets and switching the final NEO delivery this year from all-core to mint. If the 5 non-LR deliveries next year are also mint, that hopefully will provide enough aircraft to support the additional mint flights out of EWR and LAX.

fly747first Sep 17, 2020 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32680687)
It was confirmed today that this will be the first NEO to be equipped with Mint, however it is not an LR model. So I expect the area behind the "e" in "JetBlue" without the windows to be a lavatory, with a pantry opposite. Of course this is speculation -- the actual config is still TBA.

-J.

As long as it has Mint, I'll be a happy camper


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