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CenterWaters Aug 4, 2013 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by JetBlueFA (Post 21213822)
I've been asking the same question. What's the backup plan if a 321 goes tech. Are we going to have a spare sitting around just in case or is a 320 going to be subbed or a high density 321?

I was got downgraded from business class to coach on ANA, due to equipment change. In addition to monetary compensation, I was put in coach with a row of seats block off just for me. (i.e. I was in 15C, 15A & 15 blocked for me)

will2288 Aug 4, 2013 3:54 pm

This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).

It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.

From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.


I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2889/9...dce28a08_c.jpg


My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.

CenterWaters Aug 4, 2013 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by will2288 (Post 21214117)
This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).

It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.

From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.


I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.



My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.

The majority of my flying are on 15-hour nonstop flights. I really do not
understand why people need lie-flat seats on a transcon flights that's only
5 and half hours. :D How do those people survive on 15-hour flights? :D

baldeagle50 Aug 4, 2013 4:17 pm

Wall Street article on New Premium Class on Transcontinental Flights Will Have Lie-Flat Beds, Suites. In case you don't know, copy and paste the title of the article into Google to read the full WSJ article.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433619930.html

sbm12 Aug 4, 2013 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by milesmuncher (Post 21213140)
Any of your JetBlue insider sources saying whether the C seats / suites are indeed angled as the video seems to imply?

Yes, but until only a few minutes ago I was under an NDA to not release the details. The new seats are based on the Thomson Aero Vantage Suite. It is a slightly modified version of the seat used by SN, LX and others. They are fully flat and staggered so your feet go under the seat in front of you.

More details available here: http://blog.apex.aero/cabin-interior...-airbus-a321s/.

thomwithanh Aug 4, 2013 6:28 pm


Originally Posted by baldeagle50 (Post 21214236)
In case you don't know, copy and paste the title of the article into Google to read the full WSJ article.

Wasn't able to get the whole article text that way, am I missing something?

CenterWaters Aug 4, 2013 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by thomwithanh (Post 21214711)
Wasn't able to get the whole article text that way, am I missing something?

This is what you need to do in order the read the full WSJ article:

(1) right-click and copy the link below
(2) right-click and paste the link into a Google search box
(3) click on the first result to read the full article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433619930.html

bennos Aug 4, 2013 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 21214688)

Interesting quote from that article:

“[W]e are targeting the under-served in the premium market. This includes small business owners and those paying for travel themselves.”

This makes sense. On these routes, there really isn't anything between Y+ (say, $250/ow) and J (say, $1000+/ow). I'm interested to see what the B6 premium seats price out at.

Decent pricing and B6 joining Pre-√ will sway a good chunk of my domestic travel, I think.

bennos Aug 4, 2013 9:07 pm


Originally Posted by will2288 (Post 21214117)
I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.

My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.

That was my guess, too. Whatever it is, it seems oriented towards the Y cabin, as it is across from a lav that seems to serve the forward part of the Y cabin. (There is another lav by 1L that appears to be for the premium cabin.)

CenterWaters Aug 5, 2013 12:24 am


Originally Posted by bennos (Post 21215290)
That was my guess, too. Whatever it is, it seems oriented towards the Y cabin, as it is across from a lav that seems to serve the forward part of the Y cabin. (There is another lav by 1L that appears to be for the premium cabin.)

here are my other guesses for this "secret" room:

(1) shower for business class passengers

(2) dressing room

(3) espresso station

(4) fully-stocked bar

(5) oven of freshly-made pizza or chocolate cookies

incognitoMD Aug 5, 2013 4:09 am

Suites look very cool. Though the video definitely looks like the seats looking angled rather than fully flat. I assume there will be sliding doors that slide close for the 1-1 suites, but the height of the walls doesn't seem high enough for optimum privacy.

Awesome nonetheless!

DeepSky Aug 5, 2013 6:55 am

JetBlue goes Upmarket
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/discou...200800273.html

somedude24 Aug 5, 2013 7:34 am

Coach
 
This might be a kind of debbie-downer question, given the exciting news about the premium section and the new seats and entertainment systems throughout the cabin, but...

I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?

sbm12 Aug 5, 2013 7:41 am


Originally Posted by somedude24 (Post 21216989)
This might be a kind of debbie-downer question, given the exciting news about the premium section and the new seats and entertainment systems throughout the cabin, but...

I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?

The new coach product is 33" in regular seats and 37" in EML. That's still the best in the market.

Upgraded! Aug 5, 2013 7:51 am


Originally Posted by will2288 (Post 21214117)
This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).

It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.

From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.

I think the description of the seats gives way to some confusion, as this doesn't appear to be a "cabin within a cabin" as you suggest. Rather, it looks more like a narrow-body version of DL's 764 J seat, with its staggered configuration. Essentially, the best way to condense lie-flat seating, while allowing it to be truly lie-flat is to stagger the seats such that the legrest on one seat extends under the armrest of the seat in front. This staggered configuration works brilliantly for that.

The video also looked as though all rows had the sliding doors, but perhaps that was just the CGI. Or perhaps that feature isn't advertised because only those traveling together would utilize such a feature.


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