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Originally Posted by andrzej
(Post 8866078)
That law leaves a great deal of leeway for the Japanese Police to stop and ID, doesn't it?
But the foreigner has rights. He has a right to know why the officer wants to inspect his ID. He also has a right to see the police officer's ID. (Except if this is taking place at a police station). I think it makes sense to exercise these rights and to lodge a complaint about any unreasonable ID request. Imagine if this happens to you three times. By the third time, you're going to be upset. You'll be wondering (like the OP) whether you've been targetted. You will want to persuade the police to leave you alone to do your lawful business. Well, it will be hard to make your case unless you can detail the times, places and names of officers who ID'd you and the reasons they gave for the inspections. It will be much easier to make your case if you can point to official complaints that you previously lodged. Regarding the inspection at the shuttle bus stop -- I now understand that you were at Narita airport itself (I misunderstood before - thought you were at the Hilton hotel). The situation within "fortress Narita" is a bit special, since it is constantly threatened by domestic and international terrorists. You will notice that everyone (Japanese and foreign) goes through an inspection with ID checks before entering the airport. If you ask "Why?" at the airport, the police officer will probably name a good enough reason. But I still think it's a good idea to ask "Why?" |
Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 8864049)
You may feel it violates your rights under some flimsy UN Charter of Human Rights, but that's bullocks. When you are a non-resident in most countries, you have very few rights. If you feel the way you do, then why are you in that country?
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 8860362)
Doh! Like wake up and smell the reality! You're a Caucasian male (of what age) in the company of an Asian male (of what age)? You're gay and most societies are far from liberal about such circumstances. No wonder you were stopped.
[snip] Also smell the coffee about the sex trade, and two male foreigners traveling together of mixed race in some eyes can raise an alarm, particularly in a repressed society like Japan which has ethnic zenophobia and keeps its sexual ideosyncracies behind closed doors. FWIW, I've never been stopped by the cops in 12 years of living in Japan. But there does seem to be anecdotal evidence that such incidents are increasing... |
This thread probably has run its course. Should have started it in OMNI I suppose.
First incident happened after departing a subway in near Shinjuku station and walking onto the street. Both officers intercepted us during the daytime evening hours while walking down the street with lots of people around. It really seems like they were directed towards us to intercept us and stop us. 2nd was in Roppongi station and the only significant things is it was during the morning rush hour and tons of Japanese were flowing out of the turnstiles. After they were done talking to us they all returned to their locations. One woman put a surgical mask back over her mouth because of the fumes and they all just blended right back in. It was very spooky. My last comment is not to tell Japan how they should or should not do things (not that they're listening anyway) but simply that it really kind of rattled us a bit since no other countries has ever done this to us. |
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This thread is starting to smell like a Big Daikon. :eek:
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