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abacaxi Apr 11, 2022 12:18 pm

Hyperdia timetable
 
The easily searched Hyperdia timetable is no longer available.
I'm wondering if anyone has found another way of finding a JR rail timetable.

Pickles Apr 11, 2022 12:23 pm

The JR websites have their timetables. Not as user-friendly, but it's all there.

seigex Apr 11, 2022 12:24 pm

delete - found the piece that's missing


  • Timetable Search service Termination notice
    As of March 31, 2022, we will no longer offer timetable search.
    From now on, we will only offer average time search.
    We apologize for any inconvenience, but we will appreciate your continued patronage.


Steve M Apr 11, 2022 4:27 pm

That's a huge loss, especially when trying to figure out your "last train" options.


Originally Posted by Pickles (Post 34156143)
The JR websites have their timetables. Not as user-friendly, but it's all there.

"It's all there," assuming all you need is JR services. That's only a tiny amount of the usefulness that Hyperdia added. Playing around with it a bit, Hyperdia is still going to be quite useful in calculating the best route and about how long it will take, but no more "last train," and it also makes it much more complicated to meet up with someone at a designated station and time and for each to figure out exactly what they need to do to get there.

abacaxi Apr 11, 2022 6:09 pm

The current Hyperdia scheme provides the following schedule shown below.
I was accustomed to selecting a departure time and then seeing the arrival/departure times at each station along the route. Additionally, the current scheme shows only itineraries which include a train change but doesn't show the Uzushio 8 which departs Tokushima at 0923 and arrives at Okayama at 1133.
How/where can I get some of that information?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7b6b80db70.jpg

freecia Apr 11, 2022 8:17 pm

Jorudan still has the first and last train option
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?sub_lang=nosub

I've also used NaviTime app in English
Mobile apps https://www.navitime.co.jp/pcstorage...ravel/english/
Route Search on desktop https://japantravel.navitime.com/en/area/jp/route/
I mostly use their JP website https://www.navitime.co.jp/ for bus routes and driving route tolls.

Few more options suggested here https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/c...e_to_hyperdia/

abacaxi Apr 11, 2022 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 34157419)
Jorudan still has the first and last train option
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?sub_lang=nosub

I've also used NaviTime app in English
Mobile apps https://www.navitime.co.jp/pcstorage...ravel/english/
Route Search on desktop https://japantravel.navitime.com/en/area/jp/route/
I mostly use their JP website https://www.navitime.co.jp/ for bus routes and driving route tolls.

Few more options suggested here https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/c...e_to_hyperdia/


Thanks, freecia.
Time for this old dog to learn new tricks.

freecia Apr 11, 2022 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by abacaxi (Post 34157450)
Thanks, freecia.
Time for this old dog to learn new tricks.

Hyperdia was my go-to, too.

Timetable search sample from Tokushima, including towards Takamatsu. The timetable option is on the upper right.
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?...00&sub_lang=ja

Free way to filter out Nozomi for National Rail Pass if someone finds this via Google when tourism is allowed
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/j...s/?sub_lang=ja

abacaxi Apr 12, 2022 1:25 am


Originally Posted by freecia (Post 34157506)
Hyperdia was my go-to, too.

Timetable search sample from Tokushima, including towards Takamatsu. The timetable option is on the upper right.
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?...00&sub_lang=ja

Free way to filter out Nozomi for National Rail Pass if someone finds this via Google when tourism is allowed
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/j...s/?sub_lang=ja

freecia, thanks for those links.
I stumbled upon a JR West site which works in very similar fashion to Hyperdia. The site worked for all of my test itineraries between Tokyo and stations to the west and on the routes for the Hokuriku and Joetsu Shinkansen. However, it did not work for any routes between Tokyo and any stations along the Tohoku Shikansen route. So, I'll use the JR West site along with the jorudan site for future JR trips.

We've been fortunate to have had access to the free Hyperdia site for many years. It would be worth paying for a one/two month subscription just prior to a trip-Hyperdia had been a great planning tool.

CPH-Flyer Apr 12, 2022 5:12 am

I use the Yahoo Japan timetable app. That is pretty amazing, and with the latest update you don't have to search based on kana input, you can use latin letters as well.

Secondly, I use something as simple as Google maps, it is almost as effective, it just seems to lack shihatsu. But the shuden search works well.

jib71 Nov 8, 2022 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34158166)
I use something as simple as Google maps, it is almost as effective, it just seems to lack shihatsu.

Just get a friend to poke you in the back while you're searching.

CPH-Flyer Nov 8, 2022 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 34743947)
Just get a friend to poke you in the back while you're searching.

Would be nice with some shiatsu while looking for shihatsu train information. 😁

FlyingSloth Nov 12, 2022 10:49 am

My last time in Japan was January 2020.. right before COVID exploded. I used to use Hyperdia for EVERYTHING transit related for Japan. Now which Android app do people recommend? I'm not in Japan yet (arriving in a few days) so I can't test it.. just want to have an alternative loaded on my phone and ready to go.

On another web site someone suggested Jorudan Japan Transit Planner? Is that the best one? or a better one that has an app for Android?

Gradfly Nov 12, 2022 11:23 am


Originally Posted by FlyingSloth (Post 34752837)
My last time in Japan was January 2020.. right before COVID exploded. I used to use Hyperdia for EVERYTHING transit related for Japan. Now which Android app do people recommend? I'm not in Japan yet (arriving in a few days) so I can't test it.. just want to have an alternative loaded on my phone and ready to go.

On another web site someone suggested Jorudan Japan Transit Planner? Is that the best one? or a better one that has an app for Android?

Haven't tried the Jorudan app but I've played around with the desktop version. It seems like you have to sign-up if you want access to "route search" option. However the "rail search pass option" is free to use but appears to cover only stations covered by the JR railpass.

allset2travel Nov 12, 2022 11:40 am

I used Jorudan (on browser) and cross checking with google map directions. Worked quite well as I can pick & choose according to my wish.

Steve M Nov 12, 2022 3:31 pm

On my recent visit, I was surprised how much I missed Hyperdia. Then, I found the Jorudan iOS app. It did everything that I used Hyperdia for. Google Maps was okay for awhile, but a key feature it doesn't have is "last train," at least as far as I can tell.

CPH-Flyer Nov 12, 2022 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 34753454)
On my recent visit, I was surprised how much I missed Hyperdia. Then, I found the Jorudan iOS app. It did everything that I used Hyperdia for. Google Maps was okay for awhile, but a key feature it doesn't have is "last train," at least as far as I can tell.

At least in the Android app, Google maps supports last train. What I am missing is the first train option. (sorry my phone is in Japanese)

If you click to set the specific departure time you get the option for (from left) departure, arrival, and last train.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...11f8a58fb7.png

I mainly use Yahoo's timetable. But it is only in Japanese, and can now only be downloaded/used if you are in Japan

Steve M Nov 12, 2022 6:59 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34753651)
At least in the Android app, Google maps supports last train. ... If you click to set the specific departure time you get the option for (from left) departure, arrival, and last train.

I found it in the iOS app - thanks! Now there's two sources for that info - Google Maps and Jorudan app. Hopefully both won't go away!

pudgym29 Nov 14, 2022 9:52 pm

Does it realize
 
I am stupified that Hyperdia has decided to do this.
Before, it was fun to play around with it to learn which trains for which you would have been | were waiting for were dependent on this train.
Generally, this was locating the Keikyu | Toei | Keisei train runs which ran through to Narita Airport. Yes, most of these were not on the Keisei Main Line; but were useful for determining where to transfer to that Main Line train.
I will not be able to assign my carry-on baggage to an off-airport baggage handling service - because I might still buy more Japanese artifacts on the day between my check-out and my overseas flight - and I would want those purchases included in my carry-on. But this cannot be done under the time constraints. So - all of my walks back to the train station, whether it was Yokohama, Kannai {Yokohama}, Asakusa {Toei}, or Honjo-azumabashi {Toei}* were undertaken with my carry-on close to the limit of how much it could weigh

* = the trip from Honjo-azumabashi was toward Haneda Airport - so I did not need to struggle crossing a busy avenue. Please suffice that I expended calories and lost weight lugging my big carry-on back to the train station. Then, I had to position myself on the train platform to board a car at the interior position - toward the silent zone (because I did not possess a phone), and hope I would get some assistance for loading my carry-on onto the over-window ledge. Once I got to the airport (NRT or HND), I was O.K.
-Until I landed back in the U.S.A.-


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