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progol Dec 14, 2022 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34835215)
Narita is easier as domestic and international is in the same terminal. But as the luggage will be transferred it is in both cases a reasonable smooth and simple transfer. HND does have inter terminal busses from airside domestic to the international terminal. But you'd still need security and immigration check at the international terminal.

Thanks,CPH! It seems like Narita is easier but either would be okay. That’s very helpful!

jib71 Dec 14, 2022 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34835215)
HND does have inter terminal busses from airside domestic to the international terminal. But you'd still need security and immigration check at the international terminal.

As far as I know, all buses at this time are land-side.
https://tokyo-haneda.com/en/access/t...als/index.html

Pre-pandemic I believe there was an airside bus between T2 and T3 but it was suspended when international flights ceased to use T2.

CPH-Flyer Dec 14, 2022 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 34835442)
As far as I know, all buses at this time are land-side.
https://tokyo-haneda.com/en/access/t...als/index.html

Pre-pandemic I believe there was an airside bus between T2 and T3 but it was suspended when international flights ceased to use T2.

ANA used to have a bus from the arrivals concourse of the domestic terminal running every 10 to 20 minutes. But it is suspended at the moment after a bit more checking. The so called "ANA International Flight Transit Bus". I guess it will eventually return. But yeah, until then, it will be necessary to exit first.

progol Dec 15, 2022 4:28 am

Thank you! I’ll check first on the bus situation at Haneda but, right now, will plan on getting the tickets going through Narita.

ubrahme Dec 18, 2022 7:33 am

Long Layover Haneda | Top 2 things to see Jan 2023 | Restrictions?
 
  • Arriving from New Delhi to Haneda 6:00 am by ANA
  • Connecting Flight to USA is 5:00 PM (Need to be back in HND by 3:00 PM)
  • After arrival will spend couple of hours Breakfast/Shower at Airport - Have ~ 6 hours to spend time
  • I will have a carry on bag with me ..... is there a locker/storage @ HND?
  • Looking for advice on seeing 1/2 Top attractions in/around Haneda
  • Covid restrictions/quarantine removed - per ANA website for vaccinated travelers

nishimark Dec 18, 2022 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by ubrahme (Post 34844009)
  • Arriving from New Delhi to Haneda 6:00 am by ANA

What date in January?

CPH-Flyer Dec 18, 2022 4:40 pm


Originally Posted by ubrahme (Post 34844009)
  • Arriving from New Delhi to Haneda 6:00 am by ANA
  • Connecting Flight to USA is 5:00 PM (Need to be back in HND by 3:00 PM)
  • After arrival will spend couple of hours Breakfast/Shower at Airport - Have ~ 6 hours to spend time
  • I will have a carry on bag with me ..... is there a locker/storage @ HND?
  • Looking for advice on seeing 1/2 Top attractions in/around Haneda
  • Covid restrictions/quarantine removed - per ANA website for vaccinated travelers

There are no attractions close in or around Haneda, apart from plane spotting. But you can get to some nice spots pretty quickly. I like the Shiba Rikyu garden, right by Hamamatsucho monorail station. And you could catch a train up to Yurakucho/Ginza, and then go from Higashi Ginza back to Haneda.

If you go to the lounge for breakfast and a shower, note that there is no official route back to the arrivals level, and during the morning arrivals transit security can have very long waits. I might suggest going through immigration, have breakfast somewhere and then head out to explore.

SanDiego1K Dec 18, 2022 7:28 pm

We transited Narita today. Extremely easy, extremely fast. But oh, my, I didn't envy those entering the country. The line was as far down the corridor as I could see. I have no idea where immigration was.

paperwastage Dec 19, 2022 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by paperwastage (Post 34762998)
https://www.ana.co.jp/en/jp/guide/pr...l/hnd-transit/

actually, if i stick with ANA, ANA's fine tagging thru on separate tickets (even though I have to pick them up @ HND)

at Changi SIN, ANA counter refused to tag-through (saying the system didn't support it)

landing at HND at 6am, small line at immigration (~10-15 min).
while walking to immigration, there were several NH agents with placards for short-domestic connection (specifically for flights 7;15 or 8am HND-osaka i believe)

re-checked bags to ITM after entering Japan @ int'l terminal - small line for Y, *G had separate line with no wait.
got the (free) subway ticket to HND T2 (the airside bus from Int'l terminal was closed still, preferred subway > landside bus)

presence.unknown Dec 19, 2022 7:58 pm

Planning on arriving from the US to HND at 3:10pm (DL). Is a 5pm flight to CTS (with NH) cutting it too close?

whiteclaw213 Dec 21, 2022 7:51 pm

8 Hour Layover in HND
 
I have an upcoming trip LAX-HND-SGN. Flight arrives in Haneda at 5:30 pm and flight to SGN departs at 1:30 am (all on one ticket).
Is it worth trying to leave the airport and spend some time in Tokyo even though its an evening layover?
If I do decide to leave the airport, would I need to pick up my checked luggage or anything?
In case it makes a difference, I do have one world emerald

kilaalaa Dec 21, 2022 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by presence.unknown (Post 34848570)
Planning on arriving from the US to HND at 3:10pm (DL). Is a 5pm flight to CTS (with NH) cutting it too close?

I just had a flight at SIN to HND at 6:20 AM connecting to CTS at 8:00 AM. So 1 hour 40 minutes connection time, 10 minutes shorter than yours.

Unfortunately the flight was delayed, so as far as I can tell from discussions at the transfer desk, many people missed their connecting flights. But even without the delay, it was a very tight connection.

Flight was 24 minutes delayed and arrived at 6:44 AM. By the time I cleared immigration, customs, picked up bags and arrived at the transfer desk it was already 7:36 AM. Too late to do anything for the original 8:00 AM connection.

Queue at transfer desk was not long but staff were very slow and took almost 15 minutes per guest to settle their problems. By the time it was my turn it was 8:00 AM and too late for the international desk to domestic transfer even on the new rebooked flight at 9:00 AM.

But NH staff told me was still possible to check in at the domestic counter side (30 minutes before flight time). I don’t know why staff asked me to queue at the transfer desk when they couldn’t do anything anyway. Would have been better if they had just advised people to go straight to the domestic side.

But note that at the domestic airport if you have odd size baggage, you can only use the manual check in counters, so even more queueing.

My tips - plan for delays. Instead of wasting time at the transfer desk, I wish I went straight to the domestic counter to check in there - more staff there and queues were moving faster there.

At immigration, maybe try to join the non-QR code line. It was much shorter but I got herded into the QR code line. But bags came out same time as immigration ended, so even if you saved time on immigration side you might still be waiting for bags.

presence.unknown Dec 22, 2022 10:53 am


Originally Posted by kilaalaa (Post 34854762)
I just had a flight at SIN to HND at 6:20 AM connecting to CTS at 8:00 AM. So 1 hour 40 minutes connection time, 10 minutes shorter than yours.

Unfortunately the flight was delayed, so as far as I can tell from discussions at the transfer desk, many people missed their connecting flights. But even without the delay, it was a very tight connection.

Flight was 24 minutes delayed and arrived at 6:44 AM. By the time I cleared immigration, customs, picked up bags and arrived at the transfer desk it was already 7:36 AM. Too late to do anything for the original 8:00 AM connection.

Queue at transfer desk was not long but staff were very slow and took almost 15 minutes per guest to settle their problems. By the time it was my turn it was 8:00 AM and too late for the international desk to domestic transfer even on the new rebooked flight at 9:00 AM.

But NH staff told me was still possible to check in at the domestic counter side (30 minutes before flight time). I don’t know why staff asked me to queue at the transfer desk when they couldn’t do anything anyway. Would have been better if they had just advised people to go straight to the domestic side.

But note that at the domestic airport if you have odd size baggage, you can only use the manual check in counters, so even more queueing.

My tips - plan for delays. Instead of wasting time at the transfer desk, I wish I went straight to the domestic counter to check in there - more staff there and queues were moving faster there.

At immigration, maybe try to join the non-QR code line. It was much shorter but I got herded into the QR code line. But bags came out same time as immigration ended, so even if you saved time on immigration side you might still be waiting for bags.

Welcome to FT and thank you for the detail.

JayhawkCO Dec 22, 2022 11:06 am


Originally Posted by ubrahme (Post 34844009)
  • Arriving from New Delhi to Haneda 6:00 am by ANA
  • Connecting Flight to USA is 5:00 PM (Need to be back in HND by 3:00 PM)
  • After arrival will spend couple of hours Breakfast/Shower at Airport - Have ~ 6 hours to spend time
  • I will have a carry on bag with me ..... is there a locker/storage @ HND?
  • Looking for advice on seeing 1/2 Top attractions in/around Haneda
  • Covid restrictions/quarantine removed - per ANA website for vaccinated travelers

I have almost the same itinerary in June, except I'm flying out of NRT at 17:00 instead of HND.

Since I have to do the "cross town" connection, do I get lounge access at HND for a quick shower?

I'm planning on taking the train to Tokyo Station, leaving luggage there, and then going out on the town for some sushi and shopping and taking the Narita Express to get me to NRT around 14:00 or so.

Anything wrong with that plan at all? (And I posted in the other thread, but I still can't figure out what I'm supposed to do to get a QR code for this itinerary.)

jib71 Dec 22, 2022 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by JayhawkCO (Post 34856048)
Since I have to do the "cross town" connection, do I get lounge access at HND for a quick shower?

No. There are paid shower facilities in the arrivals area (landside) but they tend to be oversubscribed. Another option is to visit a super sento somewhere in Tokyo.


Originally Posted by JayhawkCO (Post 34856048)
Anything wrong with that plan at all?

It works if you're planning to explore places close to Tokyo station (Ginza, Imperial palace, or Nihonbashi for example).
If you have in mind to visit Shinjuku or Shibuya, I'd suggest leaving your bags at Shinagawa instead. You can get there directly from the airport, and the scale and layout of the station is less intimidating than Tokyo. It is also served by Narita Express.


Originally Posted by JayhawkCO (Post 34856048)
(And I posted in the other thread, but I still can't figure out what I'm supposed to do to get a QR code for this itinerary.)

Fill in the forms on the Visit Japan Web website. Enter your transit details in place of an address in Japan.


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