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My suggestion: Skip Sendai.
Bus from Beppu Station to Oita airport - Dep: 8:52AM Arr: 9:43AM NH 194 Oita to Tokyo (Haneda) - Dep: 10:45AM Arr: 12:20PM NH 555 Tokyo (Haneda) to Hakodate - Dep: 1:25PM Arr: 2:45PM |
Originally Posted by gnaget
(Post 23422650)
Don't they require that you fly ANA to Japan? It doesn't state this but I think it would be implied.
Originally Posted by jib71
(Post 23423769)
My suggestion: Skip Sendai.
Bus from Beppu Station to Oita airport - Dep: 8:52AM Arr: 9:43AM NH 194 Oita to Tokyo (Haneda) - Dep: 10:45AM Arr: 12:20PM NH 555 Tokyo (Haneda) to Hakodate - Dep: 1:25PM Arr: 2:45PM |
Originally Posted by BalbC
(Post 23423856)
Agree with this. If you're flying, it's not really worth the stop for an afternoon in Sendai and having to get the trains later anyway. The bus ride to Oita airport is a pain (there used to be a hovercraft which was faster and more fun), but it's a lot easier than the trek up to FUK with a 4am start. The only advantage going from FUK would be if you decide to fly direct to Hokkaido - saving half the airfare, but meaning a 3 hour backtrack from CTS to Hakodate on the train.
I don't want to fly to Hokkaido direct as I will be going there as my final leg, ex-SDJ requires an extra sector to anywhere CTS, HKD or SDJ. |
Another option would be Oita -> Nagoya -> Hakodate. NGO is a bit easier to navigate for transfers, and by leaving OIT at 10:00 you can get into HKD by 13:55. The 80 minutes you have at NGO would allow for a leisurely lunch. Tabiwari 75 is pricing out as 23,220 JPY, so the Experience Japan fare would be slightly cheaper.
There is no solution for getting from Beppu to Hakodate in a single sector -- you will have to connect somewhere. |
Originally Posted by BalbC
(Post 23423856)
Nope. ANA experience fare has no inbound/outbound carrier requirement. ANA used to sell (maybe still do?) a Star Alliance domestic air pass, that did require Japan arrival/departure flights on Star Alliance. There is also a similar Oneworld pass for JAL domestic flights.
Star Alliance Japan Airpass - 10,800 yen per segment requiring arrival/departure on *A flights. Visit Japan Fare - 28,080 yen per two segments (minimum) not requiring arrival/departure on *A flights. Experience Japan Fare - 10,800 yen per segment not requiring arrival/departure on *A flights but more restrictive. JAL also offers similar discounted fares. |
Originally Posted by Wongo
(Post 23423670)
...robyng, if I was your kid would the below itinerary still be too hectic? Have to as you cos you would really have closer thinking channel as my folks would... (Thanks in advance for your opinion)
As the guys that really want me to change my traveling by air, this one below I think is the best I can work on for my folks, instead of traveling ahead to Hakodate/New Chitose, will think of a night at Sendai and Morioka (recommendation?) This one involve getting up early. But we will make up time going to Sendai by air on ANA. Plus its easy on the budget, swapping the Green Seat to Normal and using that money to fly instead and we are able to make up alot of time. 04:53 BEPPU [77 Min] LTD. EXP SONIC 2 06:10 06:36 KOKURA [17 Min] SHINKANSEN KODAMA 851 06:53 07:08 HAKATA [5 Min] Fukuoka City Subway Kuko Line 07:13 FUKUOKA AIRPORT Then 11/23 (SU) NH1275 Fukuoka Sendai Operated by ANA WINGS Dep 08:00 Arrive 09:40 Travel time 01:40 Economy 735 I'm not familiar with these train stations. Is 15 minutes enough time to transfer from the shinkansen to the subway (I don't know)? Also - how far in advance do you have to arrive at the airport to get through security and the like (you've allowed a max of 47 minutes)? Is that enough time for a domestic flight in Japan (I don't know)? Robyn |
For Japan domestic the cutoff for check-in is something like 15 or 20 min. It's not like the US! If you have a BP then they advise you to go through security something like 15/20 min before departure.
I was in Japan on RTW tickets (often multiple at the same time!) as the point of entry. I wonder if I could have used the airpasses? I think the experience Japan fare said round trip. When I was there you could use UA miles cheaply: only 6000 and no taxes. And as a 1K you could book and cancel last minute. At one point in the winter of 2013 I was rebooking a flight to Asahikawa in order to ski Asahidake. I did it for weeks and could never hit a day where I was free and could hit a sunny day after a big dump. It just snows too much up there. The UA desk in Tokyo had some policy that you needed 1 weeks notice but I found that you could book by calling the US and then they made it possible online maybe in early 2013. |
Looks like I have a compromise with my folks, instead of doing Oita -> Nagoya -> Hakodate all in one day, we decide to take the trip and breaking it up into 2 sectors as we will be charge twice anyway. My folks like Nagoya so this is a place that they could revisit. So a night at Nagoya then explore there while I get to visit a new city.
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