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MasterGeek Jul 26, 2017 7:35 am


Originally Posted by Aventine (Post 28608750)
When I call Toyota rent a car, I just tell them on the line and they include it with my booking.

I can't call because I am not in Japan right now. I could send them an email and ask that they apply the Hertz discount to my existing reservation :)

BRITINJAPAN3 Jul 27, 2017 12:35 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 28295770)
I'll happily drive in Paris. I've done it many times, and also most other cities in Western Europe. [In England, I've driven around smaller cities and the countryside, but never London.] However, I won't attempt to drive in Japan and especially Tokyo. The same applies almost everywhere in Asia.

Driving on the wrong side of the road is much harder.

Styles of driving, expectations, and conventions can differ greatly around the world.

Finally, it's much harder to find your way when you can't make sense of basic signs, including knowing the "alphabet." It becomes dangerous.

Could we stop this "wrong side of the road" nonsense. Until China exploded there were more cars in the world with the steering wheel on the right than the left ! UK, Singapore, malaysia, thailand....http://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/li...ing-countries/


Its really not that hard to do either, millions do !!

jib71 Jul 27, 2017 2:45 am


Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN3 (Post 28613550)
Could we stop this "wrong side of the road" nonsense. Until China exploded there were more cars in the world with the steering wheel on the right than the left ! UK, Singapore, malaysia, thailand....http://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/li...ing-countries/


Its really not that hard to do either, millions do !!

Better to say "not driving on the right side" which nobody can deny.

beep88 Jul 27, 2017 9:42 pm


Originally Posted by MasterGeek (Post 28604908)
How do I get the Hertz discount (I have President's Circle status) with Toyota rental ? Am I supposed to claim the discount it when I make the online car reservation or do I just show my Hertz membership card when I am picking up the car ?

Select discount from Japanese language online booking screen. I don't see Hertz President's Circle, only #1 and #1 Gold - I know those don't actually exist with Hertz anymore. I still have the #1 Gold Card, and was asked to see it only once among many rentals.

Or you can call. They have English speaking agents. Skype calls cost pennies a minute from anywhere in the world with internet access. Use the non toll-free number.

Discount can't be used on the smaller car classes P0, P1, HV1.

MasterGeek Jul 28, 2017 8:01 am


Originally Posted by beep88 (Post 28617582)
Select discount from Japanese language online booking screen. I don't see Hertz President's Circle, only #1 and #1 Gold - I know those don't actually exist with Hertz anymore. I still have the #1 Gold Card, and was asked to see it only once among many rentals.

Or you can call. They have English speaking agents. Skype calls cost pennies a minute from anywhere in the world with internet access. Use the non toll-free number.

Discount can't be used on the smaller car classes P0, P1, HV1.

Thank you!

longtimeflyin Jul 28, 2017 6:42 pm

I've been to Japan almost 4 times this year alone, and other than getting an IDL to drive over there, it's painless to be permitted to drive over there.

However, as I hardly drink on planes, I will drive from Narita to downtown Tokyo and on every single trip to Japan, I'll inevitably go the wrong way on a round about or screw up and almost get myself killed.

You don't expect it, but turn indicator stalk is on the other side of the wheel as is the stalk for windshield washer fluid.

It's...scary sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't recommend it.

BRITINJAPAN3 Jul 30, 2017 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 28613848)
Better to say "not driving on the right side" which nobody can deny.

But in Japan we drive on the right side, of the car !!

bocastephen Jul 30, 2017 10:53 pm


Originally Posted by longtimeflyin (Post 28621136)
...

It's...scary sometimes. Personally, I wouldn't recommend it.

For the most part I've found drivers in Japan far more calm, law abiding and less hyper than anywhere in North America. I've driven in the countryside, and in big cities like Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto - nothing beats a car for sheer convenience of touring places like Kyoto and the Mt Fuji lakes region vs sticking with trains and buses, but compared to what I deal with in Southern California and South Florida, I'll take right-hand driving in Japan any day.

With a car, I was on my third temple in Kyoto while tourists from the first temple were still waiting to get on a bus during peak season, and some interesting events like the Sakura Festival in the Fuji lakes region during spring are not easily accessible by public transit.

jib71 Jul 31, 2017 3:09 am


Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN3 (Post 28628095)
But in Japan we drive on the right side, of the car !!

Not necessarily. You can choose to drive an imported vehicle with the steering column on the other side:
http://www.carsensor.net/freeword/%E...5%A5%E8%BB%8A/
You can also drive an exotic vehicle with only one seat in the middle:
http://ccsrpcma.carsensor.net/CSphot...1_M001_1_L.jpg
This "off topic discussion" is getting rather dull, though, so I'll stop here. Feel free to have the last word.

longtimeflyin Jul 31, 2017 8:26 am


Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 28628204)
I've driven in the countryside, and in big cities like Tokyo, Osaka and Kyoto - nothing beats a car for sheer convenience

I would beg to differ. In Japan, between the abundance of taxi cabs and the fantastic train system, if one is visiting a major city, then rail/cabs are more than sufficient (and cheap using one of the JR rail passes).

If one is visiting outside of major metropolitan areas then I will agree that having a car is handy.

BRITINJAPAN3 Jul 31, 2017 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by longtimeflyin (Post 28629479)
I would beg to differ. In Japan, between the abundance of taxi cabs and the fantastic train system, if one is visiting a major city, then rail/cabs are more than sufficient (and cheap using one of the JR rail passes).

If one is visiting outside of major metropolitan areas then I will agree that having a car is handy.

Both arguments are valid, I find driving in Japan very easy, as some have said, driving style is very relaxed, many signs these days in Roman letters, avaialbility of english satnav etc, and there is always someone will ing to help.

In the big cities, taxis available, though not cheap, trains excellent. So choose what suits, certainly no need to fear driving here.

BRITINJAPAN3 Jul 31, 2017 6:08 pm


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 28628729)
Not necessarily. You can choose to drive an imported vehicle with the steering column on the other side:
http://www.carsensor.net/freeword/%E...5%A5%E8%BB%8A/
You can also drive an exotic vehicle with only one seat in the middle:
http://ccsrpcma.carsensor.net/CSphot...1_M001_1_L.jpg
This "off topic discussion" is getting rather dull, though, so I'll stop here. Feel free to have the last word.

True, and you can do the same in any country, not just Japan, however these are really exceptions that prove the rule. I do agree that it is more common in Japan as its seen as a status symbol and there are enough that many parking areas have the payment machine on both sides. I have driven in UK, US, Japan, UAE and Singapore, Thailand, all over Europe, and never had an issue,

If you find the discussion dull, no need to respond, I always find it amusing that once people have their say they then pronounce the subject dull. Normal convention is to say RHD or LHD, ie where the steering wheel is !

longtimeflyin Jul 31, 2017 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by BRITINJAPAN3 (Post 28631798)
Both arguments are valid, I find driving in Japan very easy, as some have said, driving style is very relaxed, many signs these days in Roman letters, avaialbility of english satnav etc, and there is always someone will ing to help.

In the big cities, taxis available, though not cheap, trains excellent. So choose what suits, certainly no need to fear driving here.

Fair point. While taxis are incredibly expensive when compared to the likes in Toronto or New York City, keep in mind parking availability in the big cities in Japan is not only difficult to locate but also expensive.

Transportation in Japan outside of taking buses and/or the train is expensive, period.

bocastephen Jul 31, 2017 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by longtimeflyin (Post 28629479)
I would beg to differ. In Japan, between the abundance of taxi cabs and the fantastic train system, if one is visiting a major city, then rail/cabs are more than sufficient (and cheap using one of the JR rail passes).

If one is visiting outside of major metropolitan areas then I will agree that having a car is handy.

I don't disagree - renting a car to use IN Tokyo or Osaka makes as much sense as doing the same in New York City - no one would do it.

However, if you are exploring outside of those cities, and want to be as efficient and cost effective as possible (especially with a family or group), renting a car can't be beat.

5khours Aug 1, 2017 6:04 am


Originally Posted by longtimeflyin (Post 28631902)
Fair point. While taxis are incredibly expensive when compared to the likes in Toronto or New York City, keep in mind parking availability in the big cities in Japan is not only difficult to locate but also expensive.

Transportation in Japan outside of taking buses and/or the train is expensive, period.

Not suggesting tourists should rent cars in Japan, but I would disagree about parking. It is not expensive relative to other big cities and is plentiful and very easy to find.


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