kaka

i remember seeing an FA, on either CX or JL, dumping all the opened bottles of alcohol into a tank.
eitherways, emptying the can in a lavatory w closed doors is asking for trouble.

dblumenhoff

He's not. He's just making himself a witness. Do you think he personally fired the FAs?

sodaisei

What is with the BKK based CAs?

I had to report very bad behaviour from another male BKK based CA on an ANA flight some months ago.

Also, knowing how Japanese companies act, he wont be fired. Will be removed from the post for some months, will have to go through training again. Write some apology letters and maybe get a pay cut.

It is very rare that Japanese companies fire someone...

CPH-Flyer

If the employees are seishain, then yes Japanese companies are not very quick to terminate employment for any reason. But I would doubt very much that BKK based crew are seishain, and then the outcome may be very different.

I think it does need disciplinary action, but if the includes letting the staff member go I don't have the facts to judge.

NeedstoFly

jphripjah

The Japanese have a commendable sense of honor.

akl_traveller

I can multiply two-digit and even three-digit numbers in my head while drunk. It used to be my party trick. Don't be so quick to assume that a beer or two somehow makes this FA unable to perform his tasks.

Historically, soldiers often drank before entering battle. There is also evidence that a certain amount of intoxication creates "flow" for physical tasks (dancing, driving etc) and it is entirely possible that by relaxing the FA, his performance was improved.

Regardless, the key issue is that "snitching" is inappropriate.

lost_in_translation

Sorry, this post is total rubbish. FAs' primary function is safety at the end of the day, therefore there's a rule that they shouldn't drink for a reason. It's neither here nor there that you are able to do multiplication in your head when drunk (not that that's particularly difficult), it certainly doesn't mean that i) this FA will also be able to do so or ii) that your reaction time and general awareness isn't materially impaired in other ways that you apparently appear unaware of (perhaps consider this next time as it sounds like you are also probably inclined to drink and drive from the attitude your post evinces).

What soldiers used to do to encourage bravery (before the advent of modern technology requiring a greater degree of concentration) is also totally irrelevant.

txirish

One beer would be unlikely to impair the FA's judgment or abilities. What we don't know is if there were additional beers consumed before or after, or whether the FA downed a few mini-bottles as well. Heading for a lav with a visible beer in hand might itself be a sign of impaired judgment, and/or a serious alcohol problem. OTOH, beer is a fairly inefficient way to feed an alcohol addiction. I probably wouldn't have reported it unless I saw either visible impairment or additional consumption, but I can understand the concern - the blatant behavior might well be indicative of a more serious issue.

Scott Kiwi

I think that the OP did the right thing. Not "snitching" is grade school lore.

trvl4fun2

What would you do if you're headed into surgery and the surgeon has a can of beer?

mcgahat

Good possibility the FA had a drinking problem if they couldn't stand going that long without a drink. If that is the case, I hope this situation is a wake up call and they get help. If they just made a bad decision then I hope they learn from it and move on and use better judgement in the future. The airline obviously takes this seriously and that is good as I do think it is important for them to ensure the crews are as coherent and capable as possible while they have so many in their care. I feel a responsibility to do the same when I have people in my care.

SoManyMiles-SoLittleTime

The use of alcohol by a flight attendant for those operations covered by the US Federal Aviation Regulations is covered in Part 120, 120.37. Try this link:

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...se14.3.120_137

It is worth reading so that, perhaps, this discussion can be informed by some semblance of facts.

akl_traveller

Wrong. There are particular codes of unwritten conduct. One of them is not snitching. Telling on others is petty. We have entire surveillance/authority systems designed to do it.

This doesn't mean you don't answer questions from the police - we're not talking about omerta.

If you were working in a fast food restaurant, and saw one of your coworkers sneaking a free burger, would you tell your boss?

akl_traveller

Alcohol Consumption and Cognitive Performance in the Framingham Heart Study, Penelope K. Elias Merrill F. Elias Ralph B. D'Agostino Halit Silbershatz Philip A. Wolf, American Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 150, Issue 6, 15 September 1999, Pages 580–589, https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.aje.a010056

"Women who drank moderately (2–4 drinks/day) showed superior performance in many cognitive domains relative to abstainers. For men, Superior performance was found within the range of 4–8 drinks/day"