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HouFly Dec 20, 2015 5:13 pm

What Are All The Intra-Asia F Routes Served by JL? Ex-NRT if it matters
 
hi jal folks,

just curious what are some of the other intra-asia routes served by JL in the same intl configured F class cabins?

the most well known one is ofc the CGK route from NRT. are there are any others? do any other airports from around Japan have JL F service to other Asian cities?

thanks! :cool:

armagebedar Dec 20, 2015 5:34 pm

CGK is the only one as of now.

hamburglar Jan 6, 2016 7:42 am

What Are All The Intra-Asia F Routes Served by JL? Ex-NRT if it matters
 
Is the F class to cgk expected to remain for the future? I'm hoping to travel in f at the end of this year. thanks

JALPak Jan 6, 2016 7:54 am


Originally Posted by hamburglar (Post 25971230)
Is the F class to cgk expected to remain for the future? I'm hoping to travel in f at the end of this year. thanks


you won't know till late summer

flyertalker00156 Jan 9, 2016 5:55 am

As of now you are good until the end of March from when it switches to the 787. This could change when the new schedule is released

hamburglar Jan 12, 2016 1:00 pm

Along the same lines, I'm booking an F award on JL from SFO/LAX/JFK and want to maximize my AA miles before they go up in price. Which routes from HND/NRT are most likely to have a first route to the rest of Asia? My flight will be December 2016 so that might be a difficult question to answer, but any thoughts are helpful. Thanks.

JALPak Jan 12, 2016 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by hamburglar (Post 26006916)
Along the same lines, I'm booking an F award on JL from SFO/LAX/JFK and want to maximize my AA miles before they go up in price. Which routes from HND/NRT are most likely to have a first route to the rest of Asia? My flight will be December 2016 so that might be a difficult question to answer, but any thoughts are helpful. Thanks.

If you want to maximize your redemption value, route through HKG. It will be much more expensive to fly on CX F after the devaluation compared to the one on JL.

CPH-Flyer Jan 12, 2016 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by hamburglar (Post 26006916)
Along the same lines, I'm booking an F award on JL from SFO/LAX/JFK and want to maximize my AA miles before they go up in price. Which routes from HND/NRT are most likely to have a first route to the rest of Asia? My flight will be December 2016 so that might be a difficult question to answer, but any thoughts are helpful. Thanks.

The best guess is Jakarta, as it has been recurring. However, no real way to know. NH introduced F to Singapore, if it is doing well maybe JAL will follow.

However, it is not like JL has a lot of spare capacity in F to expand the F routes in Asia. And maybe there will be no F in Asia if the planes are needed elsewhere.

susiesan Jan 17, 2016 11:44 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 26007018)
If you want to maximize your redemption value, route through HKG. It will be much more expensive to fly on CX F after the devaluation compared to the one on JL.

No, it is the same amount to fly to Asia 2 destinations on JL via NRT and CX via HKG.

JALPak Jan 17, 2016 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by susiesan (Post 26032869)
No, it is the same amount to fly to Asia 2 destinations on JL via NRT and CX via HKG.

You misunderstood my point

susiesan Jan 17, 2016 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 26033433)
You misunderstood my point

What was your point? If I didn't get it then I'm sure CPH-Flyer didn't either.

JALPak Jan 17, 2016 3:49 pm


Originally Posted by susiesan (Post 26034025)
What was your point? If I didn't get it then I'm sure CPH-Flyer didn't either.

Don't drag CPH-Flyer into this. :rolleyes: Look at future CX F cost vs future JL F cost instead of entire routing. You could have experienced JL F at much lower cost in the future. Another reason you should consider routing your F award via HKG instead.

susiesan Jan 18, 2016 8:36 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 26034061)
Don't drag CPH-Flyer into this. :rolleyes: Look at future CX F cost vs future JL F cost instead of entire routing. You could have experienced JL F at much lower cost in the future. Another reason you should consider routing your F award via HKG instead.

Here is the miles required after March 22 for US to Vietnam:

CX via Hong Kong RT F-220K J-140K
JL via Narita RT RT F-220K J-140K
AA via Narita RT F-220K J-140K

No matter which airline you fly the cost in miles is the same. If you are only going to Japan it is less miles than if only going to Hong Kong. Japan is Asia 1 and Hong Kong is Asia 2.

JALPak Jan 18, 2016 8:38 am


Originally Posted by susiesan (Post 26037086)
Here is the miles required after March 22 for US to Vietnam:

CX via Hong Kong RT F-220K J-140K
JL via Narita RT RT F-220K J-140K
AA via Narita RT F-220K J-140K

No matter which airline you fly the cost in miles is the same. If you are only going to Japan it is less miles than if only going to Hong Kong. Japan is Asia 1 and Hong Kong is Asia 2.

You still don't get the point and there's no point of explaining this further (or in the first place)

hamburglar Jan 20, 2016 11:04 am


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 26037097)
You still don't get the point and there's no point of explaining this further (or in the first place)

After devaluation, NA-Japan in first is 80k, whereas NA-HKG is 110k. You can't fly on CX to go to Japan so your minimum ticket price is 110k if you fly on CX. If you only go to Japan, it's 80k. Therefore, this is the last time CX First will be cheap.


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