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NYCbustravelguy Jun 8, 2009 12:17 pm

I think this is an excellent new offer by PC. While I do not stay at any of their hotel, other than IC brand, I like the option of paying $60 and using only 30k points. Thank you PC.

MrHalliday Jun 8, 2009 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by NYCbustravelguy (Post 11873999)
I think this is an excellent new offer by PC.

Except that it doesn't work (yet).
I just tried again.
This might need a few days to "mature".

NYCbustravelguy Jun 8, 2009 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by MrHalliday (Post 11874433)
Except that it doesn't work (yet).
I just tried again.
This might need a few days to "mature".

It does work. However, you need to search hotel by location, instead of using hotels in your saved or favorite or directly from the specific hotel home page.

Go into reservation general, select country and city and reward booking, date, the list that will come up will show each available location with teh points and points+ cash option.

It does not work if you first go to (i.e.) London Park lane Hotel and then try and find reward availbility.

Good luck.

Jonobigblind Jun 8, 2009 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by NYCbustravelguy (Post 11874831)
It does work. However, you need to search hotel by location, instead of using hotels in your saved or favorite or directly from the specific hotel home page.

Go into reservation general, select country and city and reward booking, date, the list that will come up will show each available location with teh points and points+ cash option.

It does not work if you first go to (i.e.) London Park lane Hotel and then try and find reward availbility.

Good luck.

I think he meant the processing of the transaction

kamchatsky Jun 8, 2009 5:21 pm

With this new feature, currently people cannot book PointBreak hotels. May it be that this feature will REPLACE PointBreaks?!

soitgoes Jun 8, 2009 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by edison (Post 11875689)
With this new feature, currently people cannot book PointBreak hotels. May it be that this feature will REPLACE PointBreaks?!

Unlikely. It looks like a programming glitch. I'm sure PBs are excluded from Cash and Pointsm and something seems to have gone wrong in that programming to allow for regular redemptions only. Cash and Points aren't actually confirmable at this point, either.

IHG has never shown itself to be masterful programmers.

In the meantime, if you need a PB reservation, call PCR; they should be able to book it for you.

kamchatsky Jun 8, 2009 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by soitgoes (Post 11875704)
Unlikely. It looks like a programming glitch. I'm sure PBs are excluded from Cash and Pointsm and something seems to have gone wrong in that programming to allow for regular redemptions only. Cash and Points aren't actually confirmable at this point, either.

IHG has never shown itself to be masterful programmers.

In the meantime, if you need a PB reservation, call PCR; they should be able to book it for you.

Not sure how unlikely it is, consider that PointBreaks was created when IHG decided to increase the points required for many of their hotels, especially the ones in premium locations, so that PC members won't get too "ticked off". Now with this new "option" they may say the program is "enhanced" so that all hotels are available with reduced point requirements anytime rather than requiring people having to wait for PBs?

Hopefully the issue with booking online on PB hotels are simply a coincidence rather than a plan.

soitgoes Jun 8, 2009 9:06 pm


Originally Posted by edison (Post 11876343)
Hopefully the issue with booking online on PB hotels are simply a coincidence rather than a plan.

Well, for one thing, they added Cash and Points without removing PointBreaks from the T&C. http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/pc/.../0/en/ptc.html

Furthermore, the award night booking glitch appears to affect 10K pt/night properties as well as PB (5K/nt) properties. This makes sense given my theory of a conflict between cash & points and these properties--for PBs, they can't have any cash & points options, while for 10K/nt properties, only the +$30 option would work.

I am, though, definitely lukewarm about Cash and Points because I think the glaring point purchase loophole will accelerate point inflation/devaluation.

While PBs may not last forever, I don't think Cash and Points are a direct replacement.

It looks like they're working on a fix. Both the PB and 10K properties are bookable if you choose the points amount from the city search results page.

demue Jun 8, 2009 10:27 pm

If this will be an addition to PB then I agree that it may be usefull in sme cities for some properties. if it is going to replace PB in the longer run then that would seriously make me think about putting more stays toward other programs to balance it better.

Overall you really need to do a lil math and see what works for you. My rule of thumb is trying to get 1cent per point so 15K for 150USD rate. Anything better is great, below not really worth it. Here you buy 1point for 0.006USD (round half a cent) which is not bad, but needs to be seen in relation to the overall rate.

For example, using this option for the CP Gurgaon which can go for 300 USD a night it would be a good deal if you plan on using ponts as it costs you 15K points and 60USD. For other places like the CP CGK or KUL the normal rates are so low that it would be insane to redeem for points either way (unless on PB ;))

jpdx Jun 8, 2009 11:29 pm

I don't believe that IC will allow this offer to degenerate into an unlimited points generation machine @.6cpm. $240 for a night at the ICs in Thalasso, Amstel, Paris, and $30 for a pointbreaks night? Unlikely to happen, but I have no problem exploiting this loophole while it's open. ^

gray bomber Jun 9, 2009 12:53 am

I just booked the IC Montreal for 3 nights in August using the points and cash. res went through with no CC issues.

dsf Jun 9, 2009 1:57 am

I've just emailed the Crowne Plaza Darling Harbour (Sydney) asking if they can change my rate from points only to points+$60. Does anyone know whether they'll be able to do this? My stay starts in just over 2 weeks and I'm a bit nervous about cancelling and rebooking (perhaps naively? It's only my second ever PC redemption). This is perfect timing for me, as I can claw back 50 points over the 5 nights ^ :cool: Thanks IHG (and FT)!

Raffles Jun 9, 2009 2:20 am

It has nothing to do with the hotel (which is a franchise) - this is an IHG / PC issue. If reward nights are still showing, you need to cancel your original booking and make a new one.

rupert_s Jun 9, 2009 3:34 am

Alternatively just book another hotel for 5 nights, buy the points and then cancel the booking. Same net effect to your points balance.

soitgoes Jun 9, 2009 7:34 am


Originally Posted by jpdx (Post 11877104)
I don't believe that IC will allow this offer to degenerate into an unlimited points generation machine @.6cpm. $240 for a night at the ICs in Thalasso, Amstel, Paris, and $30 for a pointbreaks night? Unlikely to happen, but I have no problem exploiting this loophole while it's open. ^

My only fear is that part of the 'solution' will involve raising point levels for award nights.


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