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mia Aug 25, 2012 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by peachfront (Post 19191472)
This list...

Do you mean the thread contains outdated information or the referenced website?

belfordrocks Aug 26, 2012 6:33 am

Aegean.


Originally Posted by Diabo (Post 19172307)
miles.site666.info updated:

BA, BMI, Iberia

You can move miles between BMI, Iberia, and BA in any direction you like, but moved miles cannot be moved again.

BA will match your BMI status if you ask them.


KLM, Air France

No more fuel surcharge for flights within Europe, North Africa, and Israel.

You can pay excess bagage fees with miles.

What? :confused:

Diabo Aug 26, 2012 5:22 pm


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 19195580)
Aegean.



What? :confused:

KLM, Air France

No more fuel surcharge for award flights within Europe, North Africa, and Israel.

Is anything else unclear?

belfordrocks Aug 26, 2012 6:38 pm


Originally Posted by Diabo (Post 19198505)
KLM, Air France

No more fuel surcharge for award flights within Europe, North Africa, and Israel.

Is anything else unclear?

And this relates to the thread topic of the best loyalty programs for the disloyal how?

Diabo Aug 27, 2012 9:26 am


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 19198826)
And this relates to the thread topic of the best loyalty programs for the disloyal how?

You're about to choose a SkyTeam ffp. Would you rather use Delta Skymiles to get into their lounges (and pay a fuel surcharge for KLM award flights) or would you choose FlyingBlue and not pay the surcharge for the same award flight?

When you're disloyal enough not to worry about maintaining status with an airline, other factors become important. Things like mile expiration policy and cost of award tickets.

belfordrocks Aug 27, 2012 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by Diabo (Post 19202018)
You're about to choose a SkyTeam ffp. Would you rather use Delta Skymiles to get into their lounges (and pay a fuel surcharge for KLM award flights) or would you choose FlyingBlue and not pay the surcharge for the same award flight?

When you're disloyal enough not to worry about maintaining status with an airline, other factors become important. Things like mile expiration policy and cost of award tickets.

Why? :confused:

If you're disloyal, alliance should be completely irrelevant...

mikelat Aug 27, 2012 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by AsiaTraveler (Post 18266234)
A specific case for all you disloyal flyers:
My FIL is flying out here in June. He seriously never flies, except once every few years to see us. Doesn't understand the first thing about FF miles- wanted us to book the tickets "so we could get the miles." (I booked the tickets anyway, without explaining, so that I could be sure he got the best flights possible...)

Because of flight times, the main leg of his flight is on United (about 2,000 miles one way) and the second (500 miles one way) leg is on American.

Trying to decide where to stash the miles. Haven't found a reasonable program that works for both (not really interested in opening up a Jet Airways account).

Goal would be to get something useful out of the miles (trip, hotel stay, etc) in the long term without too much maintenance (because I will be doing the maintaining). Any creative thoughts, aside from just stashing at United & American and trying to keep them alive over time?

Not any options for crediting both AA and UA to one program. You will have to credit each back to their own program unless you may be able to use the AA EQM towards Alaska status/miles.

Diabo Aug 28, 2012 7:53 am


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 19205757)
Why? :confused:

If you're disloyal, alliance should be completely irrelevant...

BA and Iberia are in the same alliance, but by sending miles from Iberia flights to BAs program you get better redemption rates for intra-european flights.

By sending your miles for KLM or Air France flights to another SkyTeam program you can avoid the 20-month expiration policy of FlyingBlue. Preventing mileage expiration is very important for a disloyal flyer.

Expiration policy, award flight availability, redemption rates, non-flying earning opportunities... if you're disloyal, alliance is very relevant. Choosing the right airline combo in an alliance allows you to be even more disloyal.

jkoenig51 Aug 28, 2012 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by Diabo (Post 14083584)
I updated the list in the opening post. Did I miss any programs that should be included?

Great job, I would like to see hotels

droopy57 Aug 31, 2012 11:24 am


As far as hotels go I would recommend SPG, as long as you have the SPG Amex CC. An infrequent flyer should be accumulating SPG points via regular CC spend (especially with the US Mint coin deal), then the points will be there for you when you do decide to travel and need a decent hotel room and/or need to xfer some SPG points to your 1:1 SPG/Airline mile program to get that flight you need.

what is the US Mint coin deal?

mia Aug 31, 2012 11:36 am


Originally Posted by droopy57 (Post 19229923)
what is the US Mint coin deal?

The post to which you replied is from 2010. It is no longer possible to purchase $1 coins from the United States Mint with a credit card at face value. Discussion from 2008:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...-shipping.html

Diabo Jan 6, 2013 5:03 pm

Updated miles.site666.info

Iberia no longer a bad program, because you can transfer your Iberia miles to BA to keep 'em alive. Transfering BA miles to Iberia is a good way to pay way less taxes and surcharges on (long haul) award tickets.

Delta and eMiles have split up.

pinniped Jan 7, 2013 8:59 am

Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on *A: Aegean.
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on OW: BA Avios.
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on Skyteam: I truly have no idea. Probably not DL though.

Infrequent hotel guest with access to all of the U.S. credit cards: HHonors.
Infrequent hotel guest with no access to U.S. credit cards: Don't really know, but probably Priceline, local boutique hotels, or maybe something like Club Carlson thanks to crazy promos that can be fulfilled with 1 night stays. Probably some region-specific programs (Melia, etc.) that are good but don't get a lot of Flyertalk play.

Infrequent car renter: Probably a mix of the base Emerald Aisle (National) service and Priceline. Or research airport-by-airport to figure out where companies like Dollar or Budget have operations that are on-par with the majors thanks to combined rental facilities, kiosks, etc.

brettalb Jan 7, 2013 9:20 am


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 19993694)
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on Skyteam: I truly have no idea. Probably not DL though.

DL is good for an infrequent flyer on Skyteam because miles don't expire. The only downside is round-trips only.

eponymous_coward Jan 7, 2013 10:12 am


Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 19993694)
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on *A: Aegean.
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on OW: BA Avios.
Infrequent flier, but most likely to find themselves on Skyteam: I truly have no idea. Probably not DL though.

AS is probably a decent option since it accepts miles from both a number of SkyTeam airlines and oneworld airlines. Less orphaning of small amounts of miles.


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